OLCI purchased upgrade offer to non-elite before elite upgrades processed
Oct 8, 2012, 10:18 am
#271
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AA twitter responded that it was an AAirpass member, but the open seat is occupied by a girl no more than 25. Before you pounce me, FT, I'm not attempting to make any inferences from this, as seats change all the time, and her perceived age is in no way indicative of anything - just find it odd.
Would AAirpass members come through similarly to paid F?
Would AAirpass members come through similarly to paid F?
), it's not beyond the realm of possibility. AAirpass can book into the equivalent of paid F.
Oct 8, 2012, 10:31 am
#272
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mmmm. now this thread has me thinking!
My upgrades in the last 2 weeks have all cleared a few hours prior. Also, I have had several flights not upgrade. (compared to a much more in advance clearing & several days in advance)
I'm EXP.
My upgrades in the last 2 weeks have all cleared a few hours prior. Also, I have had several flights not upgrade. (compared to a much more in advance clearing & several days in advance)
I'm EXP.
Oct 8, 2012, 10:59 am
#273
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Someone looking 25 years old is old enough to have founded a successful startup, inherited serious money, etc.
Oct 8, 2012, 11:01 am
#274
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Sure, and it wouldn't be the first (or last) time a GA invented something on the spot rather than just saying "I don't know" (or misinterpreted the data on his/her screen).
Oct 8, 2012, 11:49 am
#275
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Also, if one were to compute the probability of an AAirpass member being male (simply based on the current membership), I would estimate higher than 75% chance. And that is likely low.
Cheers.
Oct 8, 2012, 11:54 am
#276
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While all of this is true, the odds are against it. If one were to compute the mean and standard deviation for the age of AAirpass holders, I would expect the mean to be closer to twice that, and someone 25 to be more than 2 sigma out. Doesn't mean it can't happen, of course. Still.
Oct 8, 2012, 12:10 pm
#277
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At the very least, I would expect someone with the wherewithal to be able to afford that at such a young age to be cooler than to fly AA
Cheers.
Oct 8, 2012, 9:00 pm
#278
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I'm sure this has already been noticed by the UA-refugees, but UA has been doing this since March with 1Ks losing out on upgrades to OLCI and check-in buyups.
Oct 8, 2012, 9:07 pm
#279
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Oh yes. It is frequently cited as a reason for jumping ship. For the record, most alleged cases of this here have been subsequently debunked by knowledgable sources with inside information.
Oct 8, 2012, 9:47 pm
#280
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While all of this is true, the odds are against it. If one were to compute the mean and standard deviation for the age of AAirpass holders, I would expect the mean to be closer to twice that, and someone 25 to be more than 2 sigma out. Doesn't mean it can't happen, of course. Still.
Also, if one were to compute the probability of an AAirpass member being male (simply based on the current membership), I would estimate higher than 75% chance. And that is likely low.
Cheers.
Also, if one were to compute the probability of an AAirpass member being male (simply based on the current membership), I would estimate higher than 75% chance. And that is likely low.
Cheers.
Some people look younger than they are, and we have no idea whether this person was actually 25 or not.
Besides, someone with enough $$ to spend on either full F or AAirpass is also disproportionately more likely to have $$ to spend on cosmetics and/or plastic surgery, right?
Oct 8, 2012, 11:11 pm
#281
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Why wouldn't a non-elite purchase the upgrade? If a non-elite checks in with 2 bags, he/she already knows they will pay $60? for those bags. For $30 more, they can sit in F.
This is a problem on flights where the upgrade price is close to the baggage fee.
This is a problem on flights where the upgrade price is close to the baggage fee.
Oct 8, 2012, 11:39 pm
#282
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Nor the first (or last) time a FTer invented something on the spot rather than just saying "I don't know" (or misinterpreted the data in this forum).
Oct 9, 2012, 3:33 am
#283
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When RM get it right (which they seem to do most of the time) then it is working just fine to extract a few more $$ from a non-elite and fill the otherwise empty seat.
Oct 9, 2012, 11:30 am
#284
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Thanks brp.
Was having a hell of a time getting search to work on my phone's browser.
AA twitter responded that it was an AAirpass member, but the open seat is occupied by a girl no more than 25. Before you pounce me, FT, I'm not attempting to make any inferences from this, as seats change all the time, and her perceived age is in no way indicative of anything - just find it odd.
Would AAirpass members come through similarly to paid F?
Was having a hell of a time getting search to work on my phone's browser.
AA twitter responded that it was an AAirpass member, but the open seat is occupied by a girl no more than 25. Before you pounce me, FT, I'm not attempting to make any inferences from this, as seats change all the time, and her perceived age is in no way indicative of anything - just find it odd.
Would AAirpass members come through similarly to paid F?
Oct 9, 2012, 7:49 pm
#285
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