Feb 14, 2013, 9:50 am
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The AA - US merger was approved by AMR creditors and the boards of directors of both airlines on 13 Feb 2013, and announced the 14th.
There is no further speculation about whether the merger will occur; all that is pending is approval from the bankruptcy court and the regulatory authorities.
American Airlines and US Airways approve merger: just the facts, please outlines the facts we know;
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement Discussion (consolidated) is the thread for discussion of the announced merger.
The AA - US merger was approved by AMR creditors and the boards of directors of both airlines on 13 Feb 2013, and announced the 14th.
There is no further speculation about whether the merger will occur; all that is pending is approval from the bankruptcy court and the regulatory authorities.
American Airlines and US Airways approve merger: just the facts, please outlines the facts we know;
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement Discussion (consolidated) is the thread for discussion of the announced merger.
ARCHIVE: US LCC & AMR / AA Takeover / merger Rumors and Discussion (consolidated)
Apr 20, 2012, 8:42 am
#181
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For me, there are few things that I need to make whatever happens work. These are the things that make AA my choice. Not sure how things like this would fare in a merger:
1. Ability to buy cheapest tickets and upgrade both domestically and internationally for free (SWU and free domestic)
2. The fabulous service of the EXP desk
Other airlines do not allow #1 (and I don't know much about US Air). It's something that I could see going away, or being reduced. That would be a big deal for me.
Adding more options would not be bad. Losing these few things would.
Cheers.
1. Ability to buy cheapest tickets and upgrade both domestically and internationally for free (SWU and free domestic)
2. The fabulous service of the EXP desk
Other airlines do not allow #1 (and I don't know much about US Air). It's something that I could see going away, or being reduced. That would be a big deal for me.
Adding more options would not be bad. Losing these few things would.
Cheers.
Apr 20, 2012, 8:45 am
#182
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American unions support possible US Air merger
Apr 20, 2012, 8:45 am
#183
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This is basically the worst news ever. Sub-par service, sub-par fleet, sub-par hubs and Doug Parker. I'd rather AA be taken over by IAG and convert to Avios than be stuck w/ Doug and Friends.
Apr 20, 2012, 8:47 am
#184
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Apr 20, 2012, 8:47 am
#185
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If AA-Useless Airways merger ever happens, one thing I'll get is a few years of free flying as I use up my AA miles. Merging Useless with AA is much like mixing in some Thunderbird with your Dom Perignon. Not for me and I'm not sure what I'd switch to because none of the other FF programs really appeal to me. It's funny that the AA unions despise their management so much that they'd resort to favoring a union with Useless. Wait until they have to duke it out with the US unions. That will be like a cage match.
Apr 20, 2012, 8:49 am
#186
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Apr 20, 2012, 8:50 am
#188
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Apr 20, 2012, 8:51 am
#189
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In reality, the only thing now standing in the way of a US/AA merger is the desire of AA executives to save their own jobs.
Apr 20, 2012, 8:52 am
#190
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500395_1...n/?tag=nl.e879
April 20, 2012 9:38 AM
US Airways announces plans to take over American
US Airways has filed an 8K with the SEC to begin the process of a takeover of American Airlines, which is currently in Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
According to the SEC, "Form 8-K is the: 'current report' companies must file with the SEC to announce major events that shareholders should know about.
A letter to employees by US Airways CEO Doug Parker read in part:
Today, we filed a statement (a form called an 8-K) with the Securities and Exchange Commission disclosing that we have signed agreements with the three unions that represent nearly 55,000 American Airlines employees. These unions are the Allied Pilots Association (APA), the Association of Professional Flight Attendants (APFA) and the Transport Workers Union (TWU), which represents all of American Airlines' mechanics and fleet service employees. Shortly after our disclosure, these three unions issued a public statement announcing their support of a US Airways-American Airlines merger and that they have agreed to terms that would govern collective bargaining agreements for their members at the merged airline. I want to explain to you why we have done this and what it means.
First of all, today's news does not mean we have agreed to merge with American Airlines. It only means we have reached agreements with these three unions on what their collective bargaining agreements would look like after a merger, and that they would like to work with us to make a merger a reality. To get to an actual merger, many more things must happen including gaining the support of AMR's creditors, its management team and its Board of Directors. But this is obviously an important first step along that path and we are hopeful we can all work together to make this happen.
American Airlines has said it wishes to emerge from bankruptcy as a standalone carrier.
Feh! USAir!
April 20, 2012 9:38 AM
US Airways announces plans to take over American
US Airways has filed an 8K with the SEC to begin the process of a takeover of American Airlines, which is currently in Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
According to the SEC, "Form 8-K is the: 'current report' companies must file with the SEC to announce major events that shareholders should know about.
A letter to employees by US Airways CEO Doug Parker read in part:
Today, we filed a statement (a form called an 8-K) with the Securities and Exchange Commission disclosing that we have signed agreements with the three unions that represent nearly 55,000 American Airlines employees. These unions are the Allied Pilots Association (APA), the Association of Professional Flight Attendants (APFA) and the Transport Workers Union (TWU), which represents all of American Airlines' mechanics and fleet service employees. Shortly after our disclosure, these three unions issued a public statement announcing their support of a US Airways-American Airlines merger and that they have agreed to terms that would govern collective bargaining agreements for their members at the merged airline. I want to explain to you why we have done this and what it means.
First of all, today's news does not mean we have agreed to merge with American Airlines. It only means we have reached agreements with these three unions on what their collective bargaining agreements would look like after a merger, and that they would like to work with us to make a merger a reality. To get to an actual merger, many more things must happen including gaining the support of AMR's creditors, its management team and its Board of Directors. But this is obviously an important first step along that path and we are hopeful we can all work together to make this happen.
American Airlines has said it wishes to emerge from bankruptcy as a standalone carrier.
Feh! USAir!
Apr 20, 2012, 8:52 am
#191
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Wow that is an over-rated opinion of AA! I'd say more like mixing Thunderbird with Freixenet Cava
Apr 20, 2012, 8:53 am
#193
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Don't the creditors have to weigh in? Unless they're stupid, they'd have to be highly skeptical about a deal whereby an airline in BK over labor costs is taken over by another airline that promises to increase labor costs.
Apr 20, 2012, 8:56 am
#194
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Yes, they are stupid if they accept the proposal.
Apr 20, 2012, 8:57 am
#195
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Yes, just looking into it now. Doesn't appear to be any fare restrictions for CP, though only 2 one-way certificates for yourself and 2 for a companion. I.e. going to Europe with a companion once a year will use them up. 1/2 of the 8 SWUs AA gives to EXPs, and with a lesser route network. I don't know why I didn't look into CP sooner in more detail, I might have it next year even if US doesn't buy AA.