American Airlines Places Order for 460 Narrowbody Planes from Boeing & Airbus
Jul 20, 2011, 6:16 am
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+1. This thread could quickly g downhill. This is why we can have nice things
Jul 20, 2011, 6:18 am
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All this Airbus-hate is nonsense. Boeing have essentially sat on their hands as Airbus wiped the plate with the NEO orders both at Paris and elsewhere. The fuel efficiency of the NEO is simply unrivaled (at least by the current gen 737)- and given AA's financials is a step in the right direction.
Jul 20, 2011, 6:39 am
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As much as I'm loyal to Boeing as a Seattleite, this seems to make good business sense for AA. Very smart to play the two companies off each other and in the use both to potentially increase the overall aircraft delivery rate.
Jul 20, 2011, 6:40 am
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Like many, I am an American of European lineage, so it is a win- win for me!
Jul 20, 2011, 6:43 am
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This is an absurd an unsubstantiated comment. I believe the number would be in the low single digits...perhaps a fraction of a single digit. People choose an airline because of price and routing.
Jul 20, 2011, 6:45 am
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I think AA had to do this for two reasons.
First of all they knew Airbus would bend over backwards and make sure they got low interest rates and credit. Looking at AA credit and interest rates are a huge factor for its long term survivial. It also made Boeing do the same so they didn't loose the whole order.
Second they want to replace the MD-80s and 767-200s as quickly as possible. They had to split the order up its so massive. I bet we see AA order 319s that is the size they really need.
First of all they knew Airbus would bend over backwards and make sure they got low interest rates and credit. Looking at AA credit and interest rates are a huge factor for its long term survivial. It also made Boeing do the same so they didn't loose the whole order.
Second they want to replace the MD-80s and 767-200s as quickly as possible. They had to split the order up its so massive. I bet we see AA order 319s that is the size they really need.
They're taking a batch of about 130 current generation A320's to speed retirement of the MD-80's. The current A320's offer a fuel savings of about 15-20%. That's going to add up to a lot of change if JetA prices stick well above $3 a gallon.
The massive Airbus order also gives AA an option if Boeing's neo737 program gets stuck in the same sort of development hell that has plagued the 787.
Here's another thing to consider. Provided the fleet is larger than 50-100 aircraft, there really isn't a significant increase in overall operating costs. So it won't really cost AA anything extra to have a fleet of neo320's and current generation A320's.
Jul 20, 2011, 6:47 am
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I hope this doesn't mean the domestic 757 refurbishment project gets put on hold once again! To the extent AA gets 737-900ERs or A321s closer to 2013 than 2017 to replace the 757s, I wonder whether they will be spending money on frames that could be retired in just 2 years.
Jul 20, 2011, 6:48 am
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OK. So if AA is replacing 767 with 737/A320, does this mean we are losing widebodies on what's left of our transcons? Would hate to fly in a 737 in place of a 767 for 6 hours, and we'll lose plenty of first/business class seats, no?
Jul 20, 2011, 6:52 am
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Also, they could move the current 767-300's to transcontinental service as they start taking 787 deliveries.
Jul 20, 2011, 6:53 am
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Exciting News- now bring back SJC service and AC
Good morning!
We wanted to take a minute to share some exciting news with you! As many of you have already speculated, American Airlines has placed an order for 460 narrowbody planes from Boeing & Airbus. This marks the largest aircraft purchase in history, and we’re excited to start serving you aboard the youngest and most fuel-efficient fleet among our US airline peers within approximately the next five years.
We’ll be livestreaming the press conference with CEO Gerard Arpey at 10am CT on the American Airlines Facebook page. Be sure to join us here: http://on.fb.me/AASTREAM
For the full press release, click here: http://bit.ly/AAFLEET1
We wanted to take a minute to share some exciting news with you! As many of you have already speculated, American Airlines has placed an order for 460 narrowbody planes from Boeing & Airbus. This marks the largest aircraft purchase in history, and we’re excited to start serving you aboard the youngest and most fuel-efficient fleet among our US airline peers within approximately the next five years.
We’ll be livestreaming the press conference with CEO Gerard Arpey at 10am CT on the American Airlines Facebook page. Be sure to join us here: http://on.fb.me/AASTREAM
For the full press release, click here: http://bit.ly/AAFLEET1
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Jul 20, 2011, 6:54 am
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I strongly suspect that AA will phase out the MD-80s first as these new deliveries come in and only move to phasing out 757s once the MD-80s are gone.
Jul 20, 2011, 6:57 am
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Not something to look forward to, but a likely scenario
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Jul 20, 2011, 7:02 am
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Given that the oldest 757 is already 22 years old, I'll bet that some 757s are retired well before the last MD-80 heads to Vacaville.
Jul 20, 2011, 7:02 am
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Sigh- I will really miss the 757- Ferrari of an airplane
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