View Poll Results: If AA Citi Exec MC purchases no longer count toward Million Miler status after 2012:
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will definitely keep my card - other benefits worth it
12
7.45%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will probably keep my card
11
6.83%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I'm not sure yet if I will keep or cancel my card
23
14.29%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will probably cancel my card
26
16.15%
Obtained card on/before Nov 30, 2011: I will definitely cancel my card - other benefits not worth it
46
28.57%
Obtained card after Nov 30, 2011: I'm already ineligible for this benefit anyways
8
4.97%
I'm not a cardholder: I would enroll if this benefit were offered for new cardholders
22
13.66%
I'm not a cardholder: I would not enroll even if this benefit were offered for new cardholders
3
1.86%
I'm not a cardholder: I just want to see the poll results
10
6.21%
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Archive: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (& MM poll)
Jul 19, 2011, 1:34 pm
#91
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: RBKC
Programs: AA EXP and Eurostar Carte Blanche
Posts: 3,850
It actually makes a lot of sense (and this is as an Amex holder). They have to keep membership attractive in some way, and if Amex Plat had all the benefits of full membership, who'd ever purchase the latter?
Now, if you are talking about the attitudes of the staff (vs. the granting of benefits such as free wifi, entry even w/o same-day AA ticket, etc), that's a different story. I've never felt that I was treated poorly as an Amex Plat, though I've seen some "unwritten" benefits bestowed upon members.
Now, if you are talking about the attitudes of the staff (vs. the granting of benefits such as free wifi, entry even w/o same-day AA ticket, etc), that's a different story. I've never felt that I was treated poorly as an Amex Plat, though I've seen some "unwritten" benefits bestowed upon members.
If at some point it becomes crystal clear that this new Executive card gives an AC membership status that is identical to traditional paying members, such that the "intangibles" are identical, then I'd consider getting it. Paying a bit more per year to add on the Executive card benefits in addition to full AC membership wouldn't be bad in that case.
Jul 19, 2011, 1:36 pm
#92
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: AA
Posts: 4
I apply yesterday and call them to finalize the process, the first question I ask was if I can upgrade my platinum MC to this new one, the activation representative did not have the answer and put me on conference to the customer service department of citi, she told me this can not be done.
Also they told me that I have a maximum credit limit with citi with both AA Amex and AA Master Card, they will have to lower the credit limit of my MC by $5000 and add that to the new card for a total of $10000 on the new one, on the platinum I have $36.000 - $5000 = $31.000, my plan was to cancel the platinum MC and stay only with the Executive one.
At the end, paying $450 with less credit limit was not an option.
If anybody know the specifics on how to upgrade please let Us know
Also they told me that I have a maximum credit limit with citi with both AA Amex and AA Master Card, they will have to lower the credit limit of my MC by $5000 and add that to the new card for a total of $10000 on the new one, on the platinum I have $36.000 - $5000 = $31.000, my plan was to cancel the platinum MC and stay only with the Executive one.
At the end, paying $450 with less credit limit was not an option.
If anybody know the specifics on how to upgrade please let Us know
Jul 19, 2011, 2:24 pm
#93
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ORF
Programs: Amex Plat, AA, BA Silver, Marriott Plat, Choice Gold, HHonors Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 3,749
Amex has only added benefits from the perspective of AA and DL flyers: the PP membership was likely due to the elimination of CO PC access, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for AA to eliminate this benefit from Amex Plat members. More likely Amex will eliminate the benefit because they don't want to pay whatever price AA asks of them.
In my ideal world, AA would make a continued partnership with Amex contingent upon Amex making a huge AAdvantage mile spend and allowing the conversion of MR points to AA miles,a la DL.
In my ideal world, AA would make a continued partnership with Amex contingent upon Amex making a huge AAdvantage mile spend and allowing the conversion of MR points to AA miles,a la DL.
Jul 19, 2011, 2:49 pm
#94
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: ABQ & RNO
Programs: AA EXP 4MM, Piper Dakota, Admirals Club, Hyatt Glob, Hilton Gold, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 1,426
Post #85 says otherwise.
While you can possibly get the annual fee waiver, it's not really a published benefit on the current CitiAAdvantage World Elite MC; it does state in the T&Cs that the annual fee is $85, so it has to be included as a cost comparison.
Otherwise it's like saying an apple costs 50 cents at Store A versus 65 cents at Store B, but apples shouldn't be counted because one can ask for the fee waived if Store B has a negotiable "find a lower apple price and it's yours free" policy. The term negotiable is key here because it may or may not work at all times.
Furthermore, calling the retention number and pretending to cancel the card for the sole purpose of hoping to be retained and get the annual fee waived is also a risky move; some have mentioned that there was no negotiating at all and the agent just cancelled it. And of course, there's no recourse because the agent did what the caller said.
Noting that the "calling retention dept. to get the annual fee waived" is a variable outcome, it's better to use the $85 annual fee as stated in the T&Cs of the current CitiAAdvantage World Elite MC.
While you can possibly get the annual fee waiver, it's not really a published benefit on the current CitiAAdvantage World Elite MC; it does state in the T&Cs that the annual fee is $85, so it has to be included as a cost comparison.
Otherwise it's like saying an apple costs 50 cents at Store A versus 65 cents at Store B, but apples shouldn't be counted because one can ask for the fee waived if Store B has a negotiable "find a lower apple price and it's yours free" policy. The term negotiable is key here because it may or may not work at all times.
Furthermore, calling the retention number and pretending to cancel the card for the sole purpose of hoping to be retained and get the annual fee waived is also a risky move; some have mentioned that there was no negotiating at all and the agent just cancelled it. And of course, there's no recourse because the agent did what the caller said.
Noting that the "calling retention dept. to get the annual fee waived" is a variable outcome, it's better to use the $85 annual fee as stated in the T&Cs of the current CitiAAdvantage World Elite MC.
I'm thinking about it for next year.
Jul 19, 2011, 3:04 pm
#95
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: MCO - former DFW
Programs: AA EXP, Hilton Diamond, IHG Spire
Posts: 93
Rental Car Insurance??
Anyone know if this coverage is primary or secondary? I'm currently fighting wih Thrifty and a primary rental car benefit would be a real plus for me!
Anyone know if this coverage is primary or secondary? I'm currently fighting wih Thrifty and a primary rental car benefit would be a real plus for me!
Jul 19, 2011, 3:06 pm
#96
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: LAX
Programs: AA PLT / 2MM
Posts: 2,113
Is this info you received from someone at Citi (e.g., your Private Banker)? Is there any discount on the fee for CPB?
Jul 19, 2011, 3:33 pm
#97
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Rolling Lakes Yacht Club
Posts: 4,987
About the only thing that makes it remotely appealing is no FOREX fees, oh wait my AX plat card already offers that. It is probably something I would have been interested in a few years ago, but I'll stick with AX and CB for now.
Jul 19, 2011, 4:01 pm
#98
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP 1.5MM, Asiana Club Silver, KE Morning Calm, Hyatt Platinum, Amtrak Select
Posts: 7,161
Will be willing to do it if the upgrade from my current CitiAAdvantage World Elite MC is simple to do and if I'm able to still keep my Citi AMEX with no annual fee so long as the MC is open as it currently is.
Jul 19, 2011, 4:45 pm
#99
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: AA LTP, Delta Gold
Posts: 66
In case this experience helps anyone.
Like others, I called to upgrade one of my existing cards (preferably my MC platinum select I just got a couple of weeks ago). I was told I couldn't upgrade and would have to apply.
I originally got denied since I had just applied for and received both a business and personal card in the last 2 weeks (pushing for 2 million miles and wanted the 75k bonus hehe).
However, after explaining that what I really wanted to do was switch cards because I like the benefits of this new one better (which is true) and wasn't looking for any more credit they lowered the credit line for the mastercard I just got and then approved me for the new card (at about $5k higher credit than they lowered my old one on).
For me, I think this will be a nice card. I can use this and not renew my admirals club membership and the no foreign transaction fee will definitely be big for me, so that easily pays the "fee" right there. The EQM is a really nice bonus as well as the 2:1 miles for American.
Like others, I called to upgrade one of my existing cards (preferably my MC platinum select I just got a couple of weeks ago). I was told I couldn't upgrade and would have to apply.
I originally got denied since I had just applied for and received both a business and personal card in the last 2 weeks (pushing for 2 million miles and wanted the 75k bonus hehe).
However, after explaining that what I really wanted to do was switch cards because I like the benefits of this new one better (which is true) and wasn't looking for any more credit they lowered the credit line for the mastercard I just got and then approved me for the new card (at about $5k higher credit than they lowered my old one on).
For me, I think this will be a nice card. I can use this and not renew my admirals club membership and the no foreign transaction fee will definitely be big for me, so that easily pays the "fee" right there. The EQM is a really nice bonus as well as the 2:1 miles for American.
Last edited by modulen; Jul 19, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Jul 19, 2011, 5:05 pm
#100
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP 1.5MM, Asiana Club Silver, KE Morning Calm, Hyatt Platinum, Amtrak Select
Posts: 7,161
I hope AA and Citi is looking at this thread to see if they can make this card easily "upgradeable" from exisiting Citi AAdvantage cardholders. For some, this card is quite a beneficial upgrade from the stand point of AC membership (auto-renewal so to speak), 2:1 earnings on AA purchases, and the 10k EQM bonus.
And speaking of which, the physical card itself is also an upgrade with the added EMV chip capability and IMO, is a definite improvement than the mag-stripe that's being phased out outside of the US. ^
And speaking of which, the physical card itself is also an upgrade with the added EMV chip capability and IMO, is a definite improvement than the mag-stripe that's being phased out outside of the US. ^
Last edited by kebosabi; Jul 19, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Jul 19, 2011, 5:16 pm
#102
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 33,535
I hope I'm misinterpreting what I read in your quote and that they'll have both the chip and the stripe since we still need the latter here in the US...for now, anyway.
Cheers.
Jul 19, 2011, 5:18 pm
#103
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: WAS
Posts: 1,626
Thanks,
Jul 19, 2011, 5:20 pm
#104
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP 1.5MM, Asiana Club Silver, KE Morning Calm, Hyatt Platinum, Amtrak Select
Posts: 7,161
It's like a cell phone, why spend $300 on a cell phone that only works in the US, when for about the same price or lower, you can buy a cell phone that works both in the US and abroad?
If Citi wants to keep up with their financial competitors targeting international travelers, having an EMV chip along with the mag-stripe is a vital key.
Last edited by kebosabi; Jul 19, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Jul 19, 2011, 5:32 pm
#105
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 33,535
Considering that Chase and US Bank are offering cards with both the mag-strip and the EMV chip (plus the contactless on the US Bank FlexPerks VISA), it makes sense for Citibank to do the same for cards targeted toward international travelers.
It's like a cell phone, why spend $300 on a cell phone that only works in the US, when for about the same price or lower, you can buy a cell phone that works both in the US and abroad?
If Citi wants to keep up with their financial competitors targeting international travelers, having an EMV chip along with the mag-stripe is a vital key.
It's like a cell phone, why spend $300 on a cell phone that only works in the US, when for about the same price or lower, you can buy a cell phone that works both in the US and abroad?
If Citi wants to keep up with their financial competitors targeting international travelers, having an EMV chip along with the mag-stripe is a vital key.
Cheers.