Unacceptable - AA charges $150 to change last name on ticket after marriage
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Totally agree. Just started reading a book by Fred Reichheld called "The Ultimate Question- Driving Good Profits and True Growth", which clearly articulates the importance of rooting out "bad", short-term "profits", i.e. the $150 change fee, and focusing like crazy on building loyalty and thus creating "Net Promoters" of the company. AA should want to have a core group of customers be avid promoters (recommending AA to friends, family and business acquaintances) but being backed by top notch customer friendly behavior by AA in ALL instances. The good profits will follow...
And if price competition drives the ticket price to an unsustainable level, then levying fees like this makes a lot more economic sense than trying to improve customer service because charging the higher prices required means the customer never even works in the door.
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In 2008 this "person" (who has made all of 8 posts since joining) claimed he had a wife. Now he is changing his name because of marriage and <redactded> about a change fee.
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In 2008 this "person" (who has made all of 8 posts since joining) claimed he had a wife. Now he is changing his name because of marriage and <redactded> about a change fee.
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It seems that the OP is leading a life worthy of a soap opera, or we are being played by someone who amuses themselves by posting fiction on FT.
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Here are some examples:
You just got married. Your name legally changes as soon as the certificate is filed (if you choose). However, no license or passport has changed.
It takes 6-8 weeks to get a new passport once you have a marriage certificate... which is often 1+ months after the wedding. But you're travelling. Obviously your name has been legally changed and yet you still can legally use your passport.
If you do change your name on your Drivers License and Passport but had a ticket in your old name, take a certified copy of your marriage license to show as proof of a legal alias.
OK... final point. If you get married and thought you were clever by getting the ticket in your new name... but then realized that you won't be able to get a passport or license in the time. Take a copy of the marriage certificate (even the one that isn't "official" yet). It generally isn't a problem. Although you may be quesitoned, the powers that be will let you through as long as you have some documentation that you were just married.
In other words, this thread and Seinfeld have a lot in common. We have a 6 page thread about pretty much nothing that people have made into a problem. Back to gemac's Type 1 and 2 people, had the OP just asked or even searched, they would have been just fine.
Oh, and as far as people being newlyweds and not having their "correct" name on the ticket... well, if you're truly traditional and go on the honeymoon on Sunday, you can't get a drivers license in time. And you wouldn't be called by your married name anyway.
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I think AA gets a pass on this one...
Some people do marry more than once - sometimes significantly more times than once, and sometimes in parallel instead of in serial - and don't travel much. We can hope this marriage has more staying power.
As to whether "old, pre-marriage ID" is legal or not, of course it's legal (as Dave Noble and Plato90s have stated). In the USA - as in most countries in the world - there is no requirement that anyone in a marriage has to change their name; it is quintessentially a matter of personal choice But if they do choose to change their name, it generally takes a while (and significant money): passport, driver's license, Social Security and a number of other documents.
If the ticket matches the identification documents required, no problem. OTOH I would hate to take a "mix and match" of tickets, Russian visa, passport etc. in different names, particularly without a copy of a duly registered marriage certificate. (Add several degrees of difficulty for same gender marriages legal in one state or country and not recognized in another.)
Heck, let's not assume any responsibility for planning these things - it's far easier to blame it all on the airline. (And there are those who feel it suffices to complain to others, as opposed to take constructive action that might provide remedy.)
(Admittedly, if it happened as presented, the AAgent jumped the gun on charging a fee rather than exploring the options.)
As to whether "old, pre-marriage ID" is legal or not, of course it's legal (as Dave Noble and Plato90s have stated). In the USA - as in most countries in the world - there is no requirement that anyone in a marriage has to change their name; it is quintessentially a matter of personal choice But if they do choose to change their name, it generally takes a while (and significant money): passport, driver's license, Social Security and a number of other documents.
If the ticket matches the identification documents required, no problem. OTOH I would hate to take a "mix and match" of tickets, Russian visa, passport etc. in different names, particularly without a copy of a duly registered marriage certificate. (Add several degrees of difficulty for same gender marriages legal in one state or country and not recognized in another.)
Heck, let's not assume any responsibility for planning these things - it's far easier to blame it all on the airline. (And there are those who feel it suffices to complain to others, as opposed to take constructive action that might provide remedy.)
(Admittedly, if it happened as presented, the AAgent jumped the gun on charging a fee rather than exploring the options.)
Last edited by JDiver; Jul 12, 2010 at 2:39 pm Reason: ytpoe and add last para
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"BLAME" what? on the airline? A fee that 99% of Americans would find unconscionable? We on FT are like professional gamblers tht get booted from a casio for WINNING. We game the system, and as elites are on top of the food chain. That is why we are able to demand AA enforce thier rules. "We are rule experts"
Bottom line- OP alerts media. Media does story. Will AA back their policy or will Tim Smith hem and haw and say that AA is happy to waive the fee for this bride and will reveiw their policy with their res agents.
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Even if this really happened exactly the way OP describes, the simple answer (as suggested very early in the thread) is to travel with the matching ID.
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As long as the ID in question wasn't fraudulently obtained, it's not a "false ID". Just because it contains outdated information (re: last name) doesn't make it a false ID.
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We bought tickets 8-10 months out for international travel. In the meantime the spouse became a US citizen (unlike a wedding, this is something applicants have close to zero control over the timing) and changed her last name in conjunction with this. Therefore the US passport is issued in new name.
Called UA: the ticket was re-issued in the new name. For free. Only requirement was to show the proof (certificate) at nearest airport upon which they would finalize the issuance/print of new ticket (e-ticket receipt). So it cost me $3 parking and some gas money I suppose.
Seems to me the AApologizers haven't considered international travel requirements...particularly foreign agents comparing the passport with ticket name while in the foreign country trying to return to the US.
UA worked with us and provided a very reasonable option. I would have paid the $150 if need be. Instead I have another to add to the list of dozens of items that keep us loyal to UA. The agent congratulated us, rather than punished us.
Perhaps the focus should be on getting others should do the same, rather than defending unreasonable policies.
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May be that strikes a chord in those who often suffer from poor planning themselves then demand / hope / wish the providers to pay for their sloppiness? Just kidding.
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... "please give me the confirmation code on my credit card." When I asked why, she said, "because the fee for changing your name is $150."
It took me another call and 30 extra minutes for them to change my name back on the ticket so that I wouldn't be charged (instead of, you know, waiving this charge)
It took me another call and 30 extra minutes for them to change my name back on the ticket so that I wouldn't be charged (instead of, you know, waiving this charge)
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It is quite interesting to say the least...