Feb 8, 2018, 12:08 am
ANA RTW Award Booking Reports/Discussion
Jun 27, 2019, 1:26 pm
#151
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 54
Jun 27, 2019, 1:27 pm
#152
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Central Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 189
With ANA metal flights they have a lot that are bookable as wait list business class from the start. You will see that when you are searching on ANA "multiple cities award reservation engine" as well.
There has also been some discussion on this thread, with little confirmed use, that the day of the flight on several airlines you would take precedence over other upgrades if something in J goes unsold. Theory being you already have a business ticket. This too would have to be done with a person(at gate) not online.
Jun 27, 2019, 4:24 pm
#153
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat
Posts: 184
There has also been some discussion on this thread, with little confirmed use, that the day of the flight on several airlines you would take precedence over other upgrades if something in J goes unsold. Theory being you already have a business ticket. This too would have to be done with a person(at gate) not online.
Jun 28, 2019, 4:50 pm
#154
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat
Posts: 184
Another question, what counts as a stopover/layover? Is it just the 24 hour rule or it has to be all bookable as one segment? I want to fly from XXX - ZZZ. The best routing I found is from XXX - YYY - ZZZ, with < 24 hour layover in YYY. However, when I search XXX - ZZZ, this particular combination doesn't show up, but it does show up when I search fo XXX - YYY and YYY - ZZZ. Would YYY count as a stopover or a layover?
And am I allowed to backtrack to a city thats east and that I have been before to connect to my final destination? For example, I want to stop at cities XXX YYY and ZZZ. First I fly from XXX -> YYY (east to west), but then there is a flight YYY -> ZZZ that has a layover in XXX. Would this be valid?
And am I allowed to backtrack to a city thats east and that I have been before to connect to my final destination? For example, I want to stop at cities XXX YYY and ZZZ. First I fly from XXX -> YYY (east to west), but then there is a flight YYY -> ZZZ that has a layover in XXX. Would this be valid?
Jul 17, 2019, 9:36 am
#155
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Austin
Programs: 1K MM, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, AA Exec. Plat
Posts: 403
I had used United to find all my flights, including on partner airlines for my RTW itinerary planned to occur in March of 2020. When I called the ANA desk they said that there was no space on the flights segments I gave them. They said that just because is shows up on United doesn't mean it is available to book via ANA for a RTW trip. How do I use the United website to find segments which are actually bookable on ANA? Thanks
Jul 18, 2019, 12:23 pm
#156
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat
Posts: 184
Just booked another RTW trip with ANA miles for December 2019, seemed pretty painless after learning the ropes the first time. Two passengers, business class. Main goal of the trip is South Africa, which was a bit complicated due to distance and availability.
ATL-IST (TK)
IST-SEZ (TK)
SEZ-ADD-JNB-CPT (ET/SA)
CPT-JNB (SA)
JNB-SIN (SQ)
SIN-MNL (SQ)
MNL-TPE-SEA (BR)
170k ANA miles each (all from an MR transfer), $829.59/ea in taxes and fees, including the $25 call center booking fee.
Best I can tell the stopover in IST will leave us eligible for 2 free nights in 5 star hotel in IST, which is kinda cool. Would have preferred to start in MIA (am based in BOG, and MIA is definitely the easiest place to start in the Con US) and the MIA-IST flight was available earlier today, but someone snagged it before I finished planning. Also really wanted ANA metal to SFO which was readily available a couple weeks ago, but life happened, and now the available options are pretty much BR/OZ to SEA.
Came out to 5.71 cents/mile plus taxes and fees, which seems about as good as possible given the Mrs chose South Africa as part of the route. :-). The Star Alliance RTW tool once again reported taxes and fees at $1926.18, about 16% higher than what I wound up paying, so take what it says with a grain of salt.
ATL-IST (TK)
IST-SEZ (TK)
SEZ-ADD-JNB-CPT (ET/SA)
CPT-JNB (SA)
JNB-SIN (SQ)
SIN-MNL (SQ)
MNL-TPE-SEA (BR)
170k ANA miles each (all from an MR transfer), $829.59/ea in taxes and fees, including the $25 call center booking fee.
Best I can tell the stopover in IST will leave us eligible for 2 free nights in 5 star hotel in IST, which is kinda cool. Would have preferred to start in MIA (am based in BOG, and MIA is definitely the easiest place to start in the Con US) and the MIA-IST flight was available earlier today, but someone snagged it before I finished planning. Also really wanted ANA metal to SFO which was readily available a couple weeks ago, but life happened, and now the available options are pretty much BR/OZ to SEA.
Came out to 5.71 cents/mile plus taxes and fees, which seems about as good as possible given the Mrs chose South Africa as part of the route. :-). The Star Alliance RTW tool once again reported taxes and fees at $1926.18, about 16% higher than what I wound up paying, so take what it says with a grain of salt.
Jul 18, 2019, 12:24 pm
#157
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat
Posts: 184
I had used United to find all my flights, including on partner airlines for my RTW itinerary planned to occur in March of 2020. When I called the ANA desk they said that there was no space on the flights segments I gave them. They said that just because is shows up on United doesn't mean it is available to book via ANA for a RTW trip. How do I use the United website to find segments which are actually bookable on ANA? Thanks
Jul 19, 2019, 7:33 am
#158
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 49
Jul 19, 2019, 11:39 am
#159
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat
Posts: 184
Trip is still coming up in December, but my understanding is that we're eligible. I didn't see anything about "round trip ticket" in the hotel service criteria ? (I have seen reports of success with partner award tickets, so I don't expect that to be an issue...).
Jul 20, 2019, 6:32 am
#160
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 49
My understanding is that the layover program (that you linked) works for any layover up to 20 hours for a 1 night hotel stay. But if you have longer then 20 hours, then it is part of the stopover program that allows up to a 2 night hotel stay. But that one specifically says it requires a round trip ticket: https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-us/flights/stopover/
For us, there are no later flights from ATL that would allow us to make our connection to SEZ, so due to flight scheduling we'll be in IST for about 34 hours. That's where the "hotel service" applies, but it sounds like something we have to ask for upon arrival. (I'll have a backup plan just in case...)
Jul 26, 2019, 11:18 pm
#161
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 8
Hi guys, quick question! long time lurker here =)
With RTW ticket, can I standby for earlier/later segment for the same route/airline/day?
For instance, SIN-KUL SQ route only releases award seat for A330-300. If I wanted to standby for the A359-900 that is 2 hours earlier, would they let me?
Thanks!
With RTW ticket, can I standby for earlier/later segment for the same route/airline/day?
For instance, SIN-KUL SQ route only releases award seat for A330-300. If I wanted to standby for the A359-900 that is 2 hours earlier, would they let me?
Thanks!
Jul 27, 2019, 3:51 am
#162
Join Date: May 2017
Location: SIN
Programs: AS MVPG75k, AA Plat
Posts: 741
Hi guys, quick question! long time lurker here =)
With RTW ticket, can I standby for earlier/later segment for the same route/airline/day?
For instance, SIN-KUL SQ route only releases award seat for A330-300. If I wanted to standby for the A359-900 that is 2 hours earlier, would they let me?
Thanks!
With RTW ticket, can I standby for earlier/later segment for the same route/airline/day?
For instance, SIN-KUL SQ route only releases award seat for A330-300. If I wanted to standby for the A359-900 that is 2 hours earlier, would they let me?
Thanks!
Jul 27, 2019, 3:56 am
#163
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 6,924
No. I really doubt this is possible in the context of an ANA issued ticket. I suspect SQ would say “yes we have space but we don’t have control of an NH-issued ticket so apologies, call NH”.
Jul 27, 2019, 4:21 am
#164
Join Date: May 2017
Location: SIN
Programs: AS MVPG75k, AA Plat
Posts: 741
2. On SIN-KUL, SQ doesn't even bother to touch the ticket or ask that you get it reissued, they just give you a boarding pass for the earlier flight