Some 77Ws to get 3-4-3 layout in Y (rumor confirmed)
Jan 1, 2015, 5:24 pm
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Well for now they are still in the process of converting those 77W that are 3-3-3 in Y, 2-3-2 in C (ClubANA) into 3-4-3 first, and judging from how slow they are working, who knows when will they finish before they even touch those 77W that are 2-4-3 in Y.
In the meantime, I am surprised by the article said
"ANA’s previous 787 had eight-abreast seating with a 31-inch pitch but the new nine-abreast seating has a 34-inch pitch, according to ANA."
Isn't all int'l-short and int'l-long no matter 2-4-2 or 3-3-3 have 34" pitch from the beginning ? I thought it is just the domestic have 31" pitch.
"The economy retrofit will be done at the same time ANA changes its regional business class to lie-flat, matching Japan Airlines"
I think this is good news for the int'l-short 787 though, many UA flyers were complaining about the Business Cradle seats on the NRT-BKK leg. Now I wonder if NH is going to do the same with at least some the 763 though like JL, since some of the NH 763 are flying some longer int'l-short too like HND-YVR.
In the meantime, I am surprised by the article said
"ANA’s previous 787 had eight-abreast seating with a 31-inch pitch but the new nine-abreast seating has a 34-inch pitch, according to ANA."
Isn't all int'l-short and int'l-long no matter 2-4-2 or 3-3-3 have 34" pitch from the beginning ? I thought it is just the domestic have 31" pitch.
"The economy retrofit will be done at the same time ANA changes its regional business class to lie-flat, matching Japan Airlines"
I think this is good news for the int'l-short 787 though, many UA flyers were complaining about the Business Cradle seats on the NRT-BKK leg. Now I wonder if NH is going to do the same with at least some the 763 though like JL, since some of the NH 763 are flying some longer int'l-short too like HND-YVR.
Jan 1, 2015, 7:51 pm
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On the 77W, there is more legroom with the new slimmer, non-slidey seats with reduced width, but the seat pitch stays exactly the same. The same is true for regional 787, less width, same 31" pitch, increased legroom.
So although the article is using the wrong word, it should seem more roomy in legroom with the tighter width.
With the long haul 787, both the pitch and width are reduced and even with the slimmer seats, legroom is reduced significantly. Which is entirely opposite to the argument put forward by the CEO.
Jan 1, 2015, 8:32 pm
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Apr 6, 2015, 9:22 pm
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According to a reliable blog (http://www5.hp-ez.com/hp/8479), 790A, of which first commercial flight was yesterday, is 2-4-3 in Y!
May 1, 2015, 11:51 am
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According to a reliable blog (http://www5.hp-ez.com/hp/8479), 790A, of which first commercial flight was yesterday, is 2-4-3 in Y!
Now I do wonder if 790A use the fixed back Y seats or the reclineable seats though, since all 2-4-3 config were all fixed back, but the newly reconfig 3-4-3 are reclineable.
May 1, 2015, 4:13 pm
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It would be great if we could have 2-4-3 reclining... Looking forward to some trip reports to confirm what we are getting.
May 2, 2015, 8:03 am
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P.S. It was 3 class sold as 2 class just like when it flew HND-HKG, F sold as C.
May 2, 2015, 8:09 am
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We can't win on all fronts :-)
Sep 22, 2015, 7:50 pm
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I just noticed that my upcoming SEA-NRT has this 3-4-3 configuration (77W). Seatguru says seat pitch is 31 inches, and 17 inches wide. Yikes. I'm dreading it.
Skytrax 5-Star ratings are a joke, btw. I assume that most experienced flyers eventually figure that out on their own. They rejected my review for no good reason, which makes me suspect that they do this to keep the average rating afloat.
Skytrax 5-Star ratings are a joke, btw. I assume that most experienced flyers eventually figure that out on their own. They rejected my review for no good reason, which makes me suspect that they do this to keep the average rating afloat.
Sep 22, 2015, 10:41 pm
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3-4-3 must be new for this route. I've flown this route a bunch over the past few years... it's always been 9 abreast on 777, or 787. I just flew SEA-NRT in July, was 2-4-3 on 77W. Flying again in Nov and Dec. As of now, 787 (3-3-3). 77W may be a seasonal thing they go back to next summer, and 3-4-3 could then be here to stay. That sucks. Then again, 9-abreast on 787 is pretty miserable, too.
Sep 22, 2015, 11:00 pm
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However, the 2-4-3 and the 3-4-3 have the same number of rows behind door 4, so same seat pitch.
Sep 25, 2015, 10:58 pm
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Are you serious? When are you flying? Did they have another config at the time of your booking, and they changed it?
3-4-3 must be new for this route. I've flown this route a bunch over the past few years... it's always been 9 abreast on 777, or 787. I just flew SEA-NRT in July, was 2-4-3 on 77W. Flying again in Nov and Dec. As of now, 787 (3-3-3). 77W may be a seasonal thing they go back to next summer, and 3-4-3 could then be here to stay. That sucks. Then again, 9-abreast on 787 is pretty miserable, too.
3-4-3 must be new for this route. I've flown this route a bunch over the past few years... it's always been 9 abreast on 777, or 787. I just flew SEA-NRT in July, was 2-4-3 on 77W. Flying again in Nov and Dec. As of now, 787 (3-3-3). 77W may be a seasonal thing they go back to next summer, and 3-4-3 could then be here to stay. That sucks. Then again, 9-abreast on 787 is pretty miserable, too.
Sep 26, 2015, 3:13 pm
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Wouldn't that be nice if there was such regulation?!
Oct 8, 2015, 7:44 am
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Was hoping *G would be useful to get a better seat, but instead they were selling upgrades for $450 and apparently needed to sell 14 to make the flight work.. and I bought #14.
One other new thing about the new 77Ws: they have the LED mood lighting which is not on the earlier frames.