Some 77Ws to get 3-4-3 layout in Y (rumor confirmed)
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Some 77Ws to get 3-4-3 layout in Y (rumor confirmed)
There have been reports that NH has begun refitting some 77Ws to be 10 abreast in economy in a 3-4-3 configuration. The total number of seats will be 264 (8 F, 52 C, 24 PY, 180 Y). Rumor has it that the remaining non-IOJ 777s (JA778A - JA783A) will be refitted to this new high-density IOJ configuration.
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That would be terrible, and I can assume they would be put on the 2nd ORD-NRT and 2nd JFK-NRT flights as well, and probably IAD-NRT as well.
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That would be terrible, the current 2-4-3 config is quite nice. But it is hardly surprising, the current IOJ birds are very premium heavy.
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kind of doubt this given their 2-4-3 layout is somewhat recent and viewed positively. ANA is fairly generous (by today's standards) with seat width and pitch on their long hauls. maybe the 3-4-3 is for their domestic 777s that generally receive a much tighter config?
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But NH's domestic 772 and 773 had already been using 3-4-3 in Y for years since the 90s when those planes delivered.
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There have been reports that NH has begun refitting some 77Ws to be 10 abreast in economy in a 3-4-3 configuration. The total number of seats will be 264 (8 F, 52 C, 24 PY, 180 Y). Rumor has it that the remaining non-IOJ 777s (JA778A - JA783A) will be refitted to this new high-density IOJ configuration.
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It's an interesting strategy and is in stark contrast to their domestic rival, who seems to be trying to make improvements in all classes.
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The loss in roominess may be compensated by a reclining seat, so that it ends up being a zero sum game in terms of comfort. I have yet to try a 3-4-3 layout in a 777, so can't comment how cramped it actually is.
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If this goes ahead, I can't believe they will redo all the already converted IOJ 77W, so they will end up continuing with different seats/layouts in their fleet for a while to come. There's not that many old config 77W left, but then there are new deliveries due next year. I wonder what routes the 10-abreast would go on, or will they just be swapped in late in the process based on how well ticket sales go in Y?
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I am not sure that 3-4-3 in itself is enough to cost a star. Though roomy in width and legroom, the current sliding seat is pretty uncomfortable already.
The loss in roominess may be compensated by a reclining seat, so that it ends up being a zero sum game in terms of comfort. I have yet to try a 3-4-3 layout in a 777, so can't comment how cramped it actually is.
The loss in roominess may be compensated by a reclining seat, so that it ends up being a zero sum game in terms of comfort. I have yet to try a 3-4-3 layout in a 777, so can't comment how cramped it actually is.
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An airline operating long haul flights need to have full-flat seats in both First Class and Business Class. Economy class 5-Star seat pitch requirements have traditionally been set at 32-33 inches, but with newer slimline seats this is an area that Skytrax discuss with an individual airline to determine personal "seat space" that customers receive. The width and cabin layout (configuration) for Economy class seats is an area of discussion and change in the rating requirements for 5-Star airlines.
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