Aug 22, 2017, 7:49 pm
Last edit by: Tokyoite
ANA website seat maps
https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/ca/e/asw_common/departure/inflight/seatmap/
2-2-2 or 2-3-2 staggered all isle seats. Photos can be seen below.
FAQ about ANA "BUSINESS STAGGERED"
1. What planes have the BUSINESS STAGGERED suites?
ALL 777-300ER(77W) and 787-900 (789), as well as one type of the B787-8(169 seats variation).
ANA website links on business staggered class is here (77W), (789) and B787-8(169 seats variation).
2. What is the best seat for a solo passenger?
Any of the window seats, odd number rows on the left (1A,3A,5A..), even number rows on the right (2K,4K,6K...)
3. What is the best seat for a couple?
No consensus.
4. I see 1A blocked on the 789 or 787. Is it occupied?
It will be released to all at online check-in (t-24) if not occupied.
5. What routes have the BUSINESS STAGGERED suites?
ALL 777W routes =NRT-JFK,LAX,SFO,ORD,IAD,IAH, & HND-JFK,LAX,ORD,CDG,FRA,LHR
ALL 789 routes (215 seats variation) = HND-SYD,SIN,BKK,HAN,SJC,SEA,YVR,CDG,MUC,DUS,
B787-8(169 seats variation). = NRT-MEX,BRU,DEL,BOM
6. What's up with all this chatter about hot cabins?
The cabin temperature seems to be maintained very warm relative to most westerners' preferences, but it seems to be the preferred temperature for Japanese passengers.
You will survive.
PHOTOS
Post 461 - Seat 3A on the B789 - August 2018 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30072531-post461.html
5 photos below from Boeing 777-300ER (77W)
From 2 flights on the same trip - May 2017 - posted by 24left
https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/ca/e/asw_common/departure/inflight/seatmap/
2-2-2 or 2-3-2 staggered all isle seats. Photos can be seen below.
FAQ about ANA "BUSINESS STAGGERED"
1. What planes have the BUSINESS STAGGERED suites?
ALL 777-300ER(77W) and 787-900 (789), as well as one type of the B787-8(169 seats variation).
ANA website links on business staggered class is here (77W), (789) and B787-8(169 seats variation).
2. What is the best seat for a solo passenger?
Any of the window seats, odd number rows on the left (1A,3A,5A..), even number rows on the right (2K,4K,6K...)
3. What is the best seat for a couple?
No consensus.
4. I see 1A blocked on the 789 or 787. Is it occupied?
It will be released to all at online check-in (t-24) if not occupied.
5. What routes have the BUSINESS STAGGERED suites?
ALL 777W routes =NRT-JFK,LAX,SFO,ORD,IAD,IAH, & HND-JFK,LAX,ORD,CDG,FRA,LHR
ALL 789 routes (215 seats variation) = HND-SYD,SIN,BKK,HAN,SJC,SEA,YVR,CDG,MUC,DUS,
B787-8(169 seats variation). = NRT-MEX,BRU,DEL,BOM
6. What's up with all this chatter about hot cabins?
The cabin temperature seems to be maintained very warm relative to most westerners' preferences, but it seems to be the preferred temperature for Japanese passengers.
You will survive.
PHOTOS
Post 461 - Seat 3A on the B789 - August 2018 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30072531-post461.html
5 photos below from Boeing 777-300ER (77W)
From 2 flights on the same trip - May 2017 - posted by 24left
Business Staggered (77W/788/789/781) seating thread [consolidated]
Feb 21, 2012, 7:50 pm
#2
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Which route are you flying?
On the 787, the one that flies to FRA are fully flat. The one that flies domestic Japan (and probably intra-Asia) are cradle seats, and therefore not even angled flat.
On the 77W, all routes except MUC, IAD and ORD will have the fully flat seats (I believe SFO/LAX are in the process of changing to fully flat, if not done already). MUC, IAD and ORD have the angled flat seats.
On the 787, the one that flies to FRA are fully flat. The one that flies domestic Japan (and probably intra-Asia) are cradle seats, and therefore not even angled flat.
On the 77W, all routes except MUC, IAD and ORD will have the fully flat seats (I believe SFO/LAX are in the process of changing to fully flat, if not done already). MUC, IAD and ORD have the angled flat seats.
Feb 21, 2012, 10:14 pm
#3
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Posts: 652
Seating guide
Seatguru doesn't have the "new" 77W configurations loaded - even though they've been around for several years.
The 787 plan shown is for regional service (currently also used for domestic flights). The international version (and there is only 1 'plane currently in this layout in service) has the same business staggered seats as the 77W, with the difference of alternating row of 1-2-1 and 1-1-1 as the cabin is not so wide. The middle seats in the the rows with 2, look like they have significantly less space than other seats, whilst the 1-middle blocks are like thrones with a bit more room.
Summary of the long haul routes:
HND-FRA 787 has fully flat, but only operates alternate days, until the next 787 is delivered (maybe in April); other days are on a 772 with old angled seats
Fully flat seats for NRT- LHR, CDG, FRA, JKF, SFO, and LAX
Angled flat (Club ANA) for NRT- ORD, IAD, MUC and HND-LAX
Aircraft with old layout also have Premium economy, whereas 787 and new 77W do not
Feb 24, 2012, 9:40 pm
#5
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No idea - but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't until the 787 deliveries have progressed a bit. Currently, one of NH's reserve 777s is covering the HND-FRA route, so they may not have the spare capacity to cover aircraft being taken out for a refit.
As a guide, the first of this configuration was delivered just over 2 years ago and with conversions there I think there is a total of 10 aircraft in this layout now, with LAX and SFO routes in service from early this year. So it's a pretty slow roll out.
As a guide, the first of this configuration was delivered just over 2 years ago and with conversions there I think there is a total of 10 aircraft in this layout now, with LAX and SFO routes in service from early this year. So it's a pretty slow roll out.
Feb 26, 2012, 10:57 am
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Feb 27, 2012, 10:57 am
#8
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What did you like about them?
On the flights this weekend. Site says its the new config. I'm in 6K. What were some impressions of the seats and the service. I"m a life long UA person, but NH has a better hard product to NRT right now, so I decided to go with NH.
Feb 29, 2012, 12:32 am
#9
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Location: LAX
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I'm an UA million-mile flyer but must say that both NH's service and hard product are much much better. The new business class seats are fully lie-flat and very private. And each seat gets aisle access as well. I was able to have good sleeps for hours both ways. I still think SQ is the best in terms of service, seat pitch, width, and configurations. But NH is certainly getting there.
Feb 29, 2012, 8:17 am
#10
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Location: San Jose, CA, USA
Posts: 175
Agree with above. Waay above UA in every respect. And you still earm EQM's and RDM's same as if you flew UA. No lifetime mileage credit on UA, but the MM program has been reduced to rubble.
I may never set foot on a UA flight to Asia again.
I may never set foot on a UA flight to Asia again.
Feb 29, 2012, 7:21 pm
#12
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Incidentally, is it only JFK and LHR that use the 77W with the extra cabin of C seats? I wonder if IAD would need that configuration too? Any also if the premium economy plan is completely scrapped now? The front mini-Y cabin in the high-C 77W looks distinctly unfinished.
Feb 29, 2012, 8:22 pm
#14
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Location: Tokyo, Japan
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I'm an UA million-mile flyer but must say that both NH's service and hard product are much much better. The new business class seats are fully lie-flat and very private. And each seat gets aisle access as well. I was able to have good sleeps for hours both ways. I still think SQ is the best in terms of service, seat pitch, width, and configurations. But NH is certainly getting there.
Feb 29, 2012, 11:37 pm
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