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ANA website seat maps
https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/ca/e/asw_common/departure/inflight/seatmap/
2-2-2 or 2-3-2 staggered all isle seats. Photos can be seen below.

FAQ about ANA "BUSINESS STAGGERED"
1. What planes have the BUSINESS STAGGERED suites?
ALL 777-300ER(77W) and 787-900 (789), as well as one type of the B787-8(169 seats variation).
ANA website links on business staggered class is here (77W), (789) and B787-8(169 seats variation).

2. What is the best seat for a solo passenger?
Any of the window seats, odd number rows on the left (1A,3A,5A..), even number rows on the right (2K,4K,6K...)

3. What is the best seat for a couple?
No consensus.

4. I see 1A blocked on the 789 or 787. Is it occupied?
It will be released to all at online check-in (t-24) if not occupied.

5. What routes have the BUSINESS STAGGERED suites?
ALL 777W routes =NRT-JFK,LAX,SFO,ORD,IAD,IAH, & HND-JFK,LAX,ORD,CDG,FRA,LHR
ALL 789 routes (215 seats variation) = HND-SYD,SIN,BKK,HAN,SJC,SEA,YVR,CDG,MUC,DUS,
B787-8(169 seats variation). = NRT-MEX,BRU,DEL,BOM

6. What's up with all this chatter about hot cabins?
The cabin temperature seems to be maintained very warm relative to most westerners' preferences, but it seems to be the preferred temperature for Japanese passengers.
You will survive.


PHOTOS

Post 461 - Seat 3A on the B789 - August 2018 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30072531-post461.html

5 photos below from Boeing 777-300ER (77W)
From 2 flights on the same trip - May 2017 - posted by 24left












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Old Mar 1, 2012, 12:14 am
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Originally Posted by armagebedar
Nearly zero.
^

Originally Posted by TWAB747nomore
I am scheduled to fly IAD -NRT in may and wondering what the chance is on having new seat by then?
Looking back, there are plenty of threads from 2010 asking exactly the same thing. Only ANA knows, but when it is announced, I'm sure it will be rapidly posted on this board. Last announcement was in August 2011 for the updates to NRT-CDG (October introduction), -SFO (December) and -LAX (January 2012). So plenty of advance notice for those flights.

I think it is highly unlikely that the remaining 777s will be refitted until after the 3 announced long haul 787 routes are up and running. But by May, basically no chance.
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Old Mar 4, 2012, 9:11 am
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I'm flying Europe to Japan in a month. Does anyone have an opinion (who doesn't on FT?) on the new NH 787 business experience vs. LX Airbus A340-300? I'm more swayed by hard than soft, but your opinions appreciated.
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Old Mar 6, 2012, 12:23 am
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Nice new seats?

Flew NH5 from lax to NRT..great C cabin. Quite spacious. Adequate food but my seat did not want to work. FAs came by dismantled it and reset it but minutes later it refused to move or recline while I was seated in it..I'm 6'3" 225 lbs so I decided that I'm too fat for the seat which worked fine when I wasn't sitting in it.
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Old Mar 6, 2012, 12:34 am
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So I'm checking out the ANA website about the J seats on the 787, and sure enough, the site says:

"This site contains bloadband contents."

That's way too funny!

http://www.ana.co.jp/int/svc/w_en/se...d/index_c.html
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 2:08 pm
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Is LAX-HND slated to get the new Staggered seats? If so, anybody knows when?
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by eddie1973
Is LAX-HND slated to get the new Staggered seats? If so, anybody knows when?
It will eventually, but as for when only ANA knows - I wouldn't think it will be in the near future though.
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Old Mar 22, 2012, 1:29 am
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Originally Posted by eddie1973
Is LAX-HND slated to get the new Staggered seats? If so, anybody knows when?
LAX-HND is using 772. If they are going to do anything, they will finish off 77W before anything else, and there are still quite a few 77W routes using old seats.
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Old Mar 23, 2012, 4:19 pm
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It's just a week shy of April and the ANA website still hasn't listed the 787 flight schedule for FRA to NRT. Anyone have any insight?
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Old Mar 24, 2012, 5:30 am
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Originally Posted by joelbra
It's just a week shy of April and the ANA website still hasn't listed the 787 flight schedule for FRA to NRT. Anyone have any insight?
You'll know when it's announced on the NH website and loaded into the GDS. Don't believe anything you read before then.
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Old Mar 24, 2012, 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by armagebedar
You'll know when it's announced on the NH website and loaded into the GDS. Don't believe anything you read before then.
Exactly ^
Rumours of delivery dates keep moving back. Currently suggested that the next 787 will be handed over on 26th March same date as the first one for JAL is supposed to leave Boeing. This would allow the 787 to go daily HND-FRA. But nothing is confirmed, new problems could be identified and Boeing haven't been exactly reliable in this programme - until new aircraft arrive in Japan and ANA officially update their schedule, no one really knows.

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Old Mar 24, 2012, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by tomj888
Flew NH5 from lax to NRT..great C cabin. Quite spacious. Adequate food but my seat did not want to work. FAs came by dismantled it and reset it but minutes later it refused to move or recline while I was seated in it..I'm 6'3" 225 lbs so I decided that I'm too fat for the seat which worked fine when I wasn't sitting in it.
I had the same issue on both of my flights with the new C. I think that the sensitivity for the blockage stop is just set too high. Hopefully they can adjust that as it is a pain to basically have to get off of the seat any time I want to adjust it.
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Old Mar 26, 2012, 10:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Nogbad
Currently suggested that the next 787 will be handed over on 26th March same date as the first one for JAL is supposed to leave Boeing.

But nothing is confirmed, new problems could be identified and Boeing haven't been exactly reliable in this programme - until new aircraft arrive in Japan and ANA officially update their schedule, no one really knows.
Two JAL 787 have left for Japan - but nothing for ANA still.
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Old Apr 2, 2012, 4:21 am
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Originally Posted by joelbra
It's just a week shy of April and the ANA website still hasn't listed the 787 flight schedule for FRA to NRT. Anyone have any insight?
Daily HND-FRA flights by 787 start from April 9th.
https://www.ana.co.jp/topics/notice120206/index_e.html
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Old Apr 4, 2012, 1:38 am
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^ Thank you!
That's a relief!
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Old May 5, 2012, 3:43 pm
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I'm flying NH5 (new business class) in October with my daughter (12). Any thoughts on better co-seats? forward/behind window or window/aisle of same row?

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