My Future Nonstops from PDX Are Getting Rebooked as SEA Connections
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My Future Nonstops from PDX Are Getting Rebooked as SEA Connections
Is this even legal practice. I have numerous direct flights from PDX in mid may and now it's pushed to June. They offer money back or rerouting via horrendous Seattle. As 100 k who flies a lot, i find this practice really horrible. If they know there will be no flights they should stop selling tickets. Problem is, i can make connections via other airlines and for this false marketing, it's just leaving me fuming
Last edited by felicidad76; Nov 20, 2022 at 7:26 am Reason: Please switch the title
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All the legacies are doing this these days. I just had a one stop itinerary on DL turn into a double connection and a 1.5 hr connection on AA turn into a 5 hour layover.
As the pandemic was evolving this was understandable. But it needs to stop now.
FYI, it's not a good idea to make such a bold assertation in the title of a thread when the body of the thread makes it clear that you don't know if it'd true.
As the pandemic was evolving this was understandable. But it needs to stop now.
FYI, it's not a good idea to make such a bold assertation in the title of a thread when the body of the thread makes it clear that you don't know if it'd true.
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Regards
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Feel lucky. A lot of my flights turn from nonstops/quick 1 stops to overnights in Seattle. No idea what AS is thinking, Ive obviously cancelled anything that requires me to shell out for a hotel room etc and make the travel time much longer that booked.
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Is this even legal practice. I have numerous direct flights from PDX in mid may and now it's pushed to June. They offer money back or rerouting via horrendous Seattle. As 100 k who flies a lot, i find this practice really horrible. If they know there will be no flights they should stop selling tickets. Problem is, i can make connections via other airlines and for this false marketing, it's just leaving me fuming
1. The op had many flights in the middle of may, and Alaska changed them to June?
2. Alaska offered reroutes or refunds, and the op finds this horrible.
3. Airlines arent allowed to change schedules - even when we are talking 8 months out
4. Are there 100ks who dont fly a lot?
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I would say that AS is doing you a favor by giving you 6 months notice. You know AS will be short of aircraft in the first half of the year. You know PDX is not going to ever be prioritized over SEA. The calendar year hasnt started yet so you are open to any airline with which to start the year as your primary carrier.
If you want a guaranteed schedule, sit back, relax and book your flights a month or two in advance on the carrier with the best schedule and price. 😀
If you want a guaranteed schedule, sit back, relax and book your flights a month or two in advance on the carrier with the best schedule and price. 😀
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not sure how others are following this thread. I find it confusing. If I am reading correctly:
1. The op had many flights in the middle of may, and Alaska changed them to June?
2. Alaska offered reroutes or refunds, and the op finds this horrible.
3. Airlines arent allowed to change schedules - even when we are talking 8 months out
4. Are there 100ks who dont fly a lot?
1. The op had many flights in the middle of may, and Alaska changed them to June?
2. Alaska offered reroutes or refunds, and the op finds this horrible.
3. Airlines arent allowed to change schedules - even when we are talking 8 months out
4. Are there 100ks who dont fly a lot?
they should know by now what their schedule should look like in May. If almost all other airlines excluding USA can do it, i dont understand how this would not make u unhappy as a customer. I can understand frequency adjustment, but eliminating and perpetually prolonging month after month, ISN'T ACCEPTABLE
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I would say that AS is doing you a favor by giving you 6 months notice. You know AS will be short of aircraft in the first half of the year. You know PDX is not going to ever be prioritized over SEA. The calendar year hasnt started yet so you are open to any airline with which to start the year as your primary carrier.
If you want a guaranteed schedule, sit back, relax and book your flights a month or two in advance on the carrier with the best schedule and price. 😀
If you want a guaranteed schedule, sit back, relax and book your flights a month or two in advance on the carrier with the best schedule and price. 😀
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Has anyone tried to turn in their receipts for reimbursement in this situation? just curious.
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Turn into Alaska? They may do it if your flight is in a few days an its due to IRROPS but in my experience if its more than a week or two out your on your own. Whats really stupid imho is whatever algorithm is doing this picks overnights instead of giving you an option to take a directs on a different day. As they move things from multiple daily or everyday to only few times a week this becomes a bigger issue.
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Yes pdx to pvr switch in March from daily for 4 in a week to once a week
Turn into Alaska? They may do it if your flight is in a few days an its due to IRROPS but in my experience if its more than a week or two out your on your own. Whats really stupid imho is whatever algorithm is doing this picks overnights instead of giving you an option to take a directs on a different day. As they move things from multiple daily or everyday to only few times a week this becomes a bigger issue.
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It stinks, but schedule changes/frequency reductions/removal of non-stop options are not unprecedented and not illegal. There should be a thread on here started ~7 months back when AS suspended ANC-HNL nonstops for several months, leaving really unattractive re-route options.
Suggest you try calling AS for a better re-route. AS serves PVR from LAX and SFO nearly daily so schedule and connecting airport options might be more favorable for you.
Suggest you try calling AS for a better re-route. AS serves PVR from LAX and SFO nearly daily so schedule and connecting airport options might be more favorable for you.
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I think there is a complete understanding that schedule changes and adjustments are totally expected and ok, but if whole sets of cities are being sold as non stop and they just keep pushing them further, what appears perpetually, i really don't think it's a good practice, and thus frustrations.