75K/100K AA (SWU-Like) International Upgrades on a Very Limited Number of AA Routes
#16
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SFO, formerly BOS
Programs: AS Gold 75K and Delta PM, former AA EXP
Posts: 68
Just received this email too. My broad assumption is that they will act similarly to AA System Wide Upgrades (SWU) where if there is "C" space available on your route, you can call and apply the upgrade via the coupon code. For example, using ExpertFlyer, I see an LAX-LHR flight for 6/16 on AA and noted 7 seats that have "C" space available. Not confirmed, just my guess
#17
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,974
Yeah kind of what I am assuming too since you have to book on AA.com. Neat perk, but timing through end of year might be hard for some of these destinations. I am not holding my breath that Australia opens up by then (I hope, but seems uncertain).
#18
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: PAE
Programs: AS MVPG75K, exiled from AA (2.7MM)
Posts: 122
Just received this email too. My broad assumption is that they will act similarly to AA System Wide Upgrades (SWU) where if there is "C" space available on your route, you can call and apply the upgrade via the coupon code. For example, using ExpertFlyer, I an LAX-LHR flight for 6/16 on AA noted 7 seats that have "C" space available. Not confirmed, just my guess
I'll still waitlist for the upgrAAde and cross my fingers!
#19
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SFO, formerly BOS
Programs: AS Gold 75K and Delta PM, former AA EXP
Posts: 68
But notice this is a flight operated by BA. Although the transatlantic and Japan JBV are metal-neutral, upgrade instruments never have been in the past, with AA SWU usage. I have two trips booked on eligible routes during the validity period. Despite empty cabins (yes, I know seat reservations don't mean anything), on all the flights for my dates, the ones I'm on and others in that market are C0. The flights operated by the JBV partners as codeshares all have C space.
I'll still waitlist for the upgrAAde and cross my fingers!
I'll still waitlist for the upgrAAde and cross my fingers!
#20
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: PDX
Programs: AS 75K, BW Plat, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 10,725
I'm willing to roll the dice on a PDX-LAX upgrade not clearing but there is *zero* chance I'm going to pay cash for a ticket on a 10+ hour overseas flight and not have it clear....especially with transatlantic flights being as low as 22.5K (miles) on AA. If the upgrades were good on award tickets, then that would indeed be a game changer.
#21
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 1,372
The system is set up so that it should process automatically based on waitlist priority, but it's not always real-time. There is sometimes a lag between availability opening up and the system sweeping the waitlist to automatically process upgrades. Hence the utility of the EF alerts and periodic manual checks...to potentially snag an upgrade before the system automatically processes someone ahead of you, or to prevent that from happening to you!
it's better than nothing, but those 6 routes are not easy to upgrade even for AA EP I assume? And AA is not always price-competitive on those routes either.
I feel like this is the preview for whatever they will be offering in the fall. Hopefully it is a larger selection, especially China and Brazil routes.
I feel like this is the preview for whatever they will be offering in the fall. Hopefully it is a larger selection, especially China and Brazil routes.
#22
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,467
AA now clears SWU into a subset of C inventory. The change is discussed here: AA changes the confirmed upgrade (C and A ) process [EF now updated]
I'm not seeing any value in these things given the limited routes. Of course I've already got like 6 expiring SWUs, so that may taint my views
I'm not seeing any value in these things given the limited routes. Of course I've already got like 6 expiring SWUs, so that may taint my views
#23
Join Date: Mar 2003
Programs: BA GGL; AA LT Gold; AS 100K; DL MM GM; Hyatt G*list, Hilton Diamond; SQ silver
Posts: 3,806
For those wondering about LAX-HND, it seems to start on October 30th.
#24
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: SFO/ATL/MEL/BKK
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Hyatt Globalist UA 1K MM, Delta Diamond
Posts: 2,678
Shame they don't work to GRU/GIG. I'll surely use London in the coming month or so..
#26
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: LAX
Programs: MVP100K, A-list, Marriott/IHG Plat, CHP525 Ticket Plat, CHP Solo Carpool 100K, Costco EXP, Tinder 1K
Posts: 820
They do that on purpose. Upgrades are only eligible for long-haul AA routes departing from west coast (not even PHX-LHR), which is the targeting market for AS. If they give us SWU, imagine how salty the AA elites would be and how many flyers would consider switching loyalty program from AA to AS..
#27
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Bay Area, CA
Programs: UA Plat 2MM; AS MVP Gold 75K
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Did everyone get this? I don't seem to have it, but companion got it (both 75Ks).
Also there's one code but says valid for 2 upgrades?
Also there's one code but says valid for 2 upgrades?
#28
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,974
Also doesn't help that AA is really decreasing its LAX hub and focusing on DFW. The flights are more limited and not much upgrade availability on these routes outside of LHR. Prices for LHR Y + upgrade and taxes isn't that much of a smoking deal vs. some of the J prices one can find outside of AA (Highly YMMV though).
#29
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Seattle
Programs: Alaska airlines 100k
Posts: 923
Received email today as well. Yeah would like to use to go from SEA to LHR. Confused initially why 2 flights were only 90 minutes apart and the appreciated one was on BA.
#30
Join Date: Dec 2012
Programs: AA Plat Pro
Posts: 910
Follow the link in post #10 and read. Expert Flyer (EF) is also your friend for C space search, although not straightforward any more, with both a revenue C and upgrade C now (C used to be only upgrade space, I think). I believe the link in #10 informs on what to do to find upgrade C via EF. Also, at least as late as November 2019, (could have changed, but unlikely) you could only use SWU on AA metal. If I am wrong, don't worry, someone will be along shortly to straighten us both out....lol...good luck!