2020 Alaska Airlines *FLAME-FREE* Q&A Thread: All Welcome, New and Old!
#151
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Juneau, AK
Programs: AS MVP, AAdvantage, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 27
Mileage Run Help? 10K by 4/15/20
Hello all! I fell short of MVPG in 2019, but AS had offered me Gold if I can travel 10K between now and 4/15/20. I'm based in JNU, Alaska. It's always more expensive per mile to get to SEA or ANC out of here, but I was looking for good run recommendations that don't break the bank. For instance, I can go JNU>SEA>PDX>MCO for about $400 one way that nets me 3,500. But can I do better? Any tips? Thanks!
#152
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVP Gold 100K
Posts: 2,329
Hello all! I fell short of MVPG in 2019, but AS had offered me Gold if I can travel 10K between now and 4/15/20. I'm based in JNU, Alaska. It's always more expensive per mile to get to SEA or ANC out of here, but I was looking for good run recommendations that don't break the bank. For instance, I can go JNU>SEA>PDX>MCO for about $400 one way that nets me 3,500. But can I do better? Any tips? Thanks!
You get about 2000 miles for the JNU-SEA-JNU trip so you may be able to do 1 trans-con and 1 mid-con from a west coast city to get to 10,000.
JNU-ANC-LAX-JFK-LAX-ANC-JNU would do it.
#153
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Juneau, AK
Programs: AS MVP, AAdvantage, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 27
How miserable are you willing to be? The quickest/(I believe cheapest) way is to get to SEA, PDX, LAX, or SFO and fly two round trips to JFK, BOS or EWR (FLL, MCO, others also but will probably cost more).
You get about 2000 miles for the JNU-SEA-JNU trip so you may be able to do 1 trans-con and 1 mid-con from a west coast city to get to 10,000.
JNU-ANC-LAX-JFK-LAX-ANC-JNU would do it.
You get about 2000 miles for the JNU-SEA-JNU trip so you may be able to do 1 trans-con and 1 mid-con from a west coast city to get to 10,000.
JNU-ANC-LAX-JFK-LAX-ANC-JNU would do it.
Dan
#154
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
This is great, @VegasGambler; thank you for taking the time to respond and share your knowledge!
If someone cancels or changes a flight on AS, availability in the fare class they purchased goes back into inventory. I have an OGG-SFO flight on Monday night -- I had paid $234, on a G fare. I guess somebody just canceled an R class ticket because availability popped up. Even this close to departure, the fare was $189 for R. So I "changed" (really just re-fared the ticket without changing the flight) and got a $45 wallet credit. That would incur a change fee (making it not worthwhile) if not MVPG+.
#155
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Juneau, AK
Programs: AS MVP, AAdvantage, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 27
Gold Guest Upgrade on multi-city run possible?
I have some GGUs I want to take advatage of, and my understadning of the rules is that you can use just one for a one-way itinerary as long as there is no more than 4 hours between segments. My question is if I succesfully build a multi-city itnerary with available upgrade space, and less than four hours between legs, can just one code upgrade the whole run? Or will Alaska break up the multi leg cities requested and require a seperate code for each leg? Thanks!
#156
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: LAX
Programs: AS MVPG, IHG Diamond Elite
Posts: 1,445
I have some GGUs I want to take advatage of, and my understadning of the rules is that you can use just one for a one-way itinerary as long as there is no more than 4 hours between segments. My question is if I succesfully build a multi-city itnerary with available upgrade space, and less than four hours between legs, can just one code upgrade the whole run? Or will Alaska break up the multi leg cities requested and require a seperate code for each leg? Thanks!
#157
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
No problem. One more example of waived change fee use:
If someone cancels or changes a flight on AS, availability in the fare class they purchased goes back into inventory. I have an OGG-SFO flight on Monday night -- I had paid $234, on a G fare. I guess somebody just canceled an R class ticket because availability popped up. Even this close to departure, the fare was $189 for R. So I "changed" (really just re-fared the ticket without changing the flight) and got a $45 wallet credit. That would incur a change fee (making it not worthwhile) if not MVPG+.
If someone cancels or changes a flight on AS, availability in the fare class they purchased goes back into inventory. I have an OGG-SFO flight on Monday night -- I had paid $234, on a G fare. I guess somebody just canceled an R class ticket because availability popped up. Even this close to departure, the fare was $189 for R. So I "changed" (really just re-fared the ticket without changing the flight) and got a $45 wallet credit. That would incur a change fee (making it not worthwhile) if not MVPG+.
James
Last edited by Flying for Fun; Feb 15, 2020 at 1:48 am
#158
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
Anyway, it's AS F so I really don't care that much. I'd rather have $45 than some unknown (probably not good) extra chance at an upgrade.
ETA: And.... I got upgraded. I did a quick EF check and saw that the flight was F1 D1 P1 I1 U1 A1. But still no upgrade. I called in and after putting me on hold for about 5 min she upgraded me. I guess I was the only 75k on the list?
I think downfaring may have messed you the reservation a bit. The agent had to un-check me in for the outbound to downfare the return, and told me I needed to check in again. But the app and website still showed me as checked in... even after refreshing after a few hrs. I re-checked in anyway, and flew with no issues (and the miles posted). The app also showed me as still waitlisted on the downfared return, but maybe that was wrong too.
Last edited by VegasGambler; Feb 16, 2020 at 6:28 pm
#159
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: Alaska Airlines
Posts: 659
AS used to have the fare guarantee thing where you could manually check your flight for a lower fare, and if it was available, they'd downfare you and refund the difference. As VegasGambler pointed out, MVPG gives you that ability back. Just like the old system, it does move you to a lower fare class which may move you down the upgrade priority list as Flying For Fun pointed out...
So you have to weigh the pro's and con's. of downfaring but I personally do like knowing this feature exists so I never have to worry about booking an AS flight and then there being some sale or lower price later.
The other nice thing about it is being able to buy speculative airfare. If me and my friends are talking about a potential trip idea and everyone's like "yeah, maybe we should look at airfare!" I will usually have mine booked by the time they finish that sentence If the plans fall apart, can always refund the airfare. This feature is also basically priceless when it comes to sports playoffs, bowl games, etc. where you want to book a few weeks before the game might be locked in, as prices skyrocket once the games are set.
I've been at multiple UW games, where when it becomes apparent we're going to win and therefore go to the PAC12 Championship, or in 2016 the CFB Playoffs, people at the game are pulling up their phones and appalled by how expensive airfare already is... meanwhile I've had mine booked for weeks
So you have to weigh the pro's and con's. of downfaring but I personally do like knowing this feature exists so I never have to worry about booking an AS flight and then there being some sale or lower price later.
The other nice thing about it is being able to buy speculative airfare. If me and my friends are talking about a potential trip idea and everyone's like "yeah, maybe we should look at airfare!" I will usually have mine booked by the time they finish that sentence If the plans fall apart, can always refund the airfare. This feature is also basically priceless when it comes to sports playoffs, bowl games, etc. where you want to book a few weeks before the game might be locked in, as prices skyrocket once the games are set.
I've been at multiple UW games, where when it becomes apparent we're going to win and therefore go to the PAC12 Championship, or in 2016 the CFB Playoffs, people at the game are pulling up their phones and appalled by how expensive airfare already is... meanwhile I've had mine booked for weeks
Last edited by nearlysober; Feb 17, 2020 at 12:21 pm
#160
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 5
It's been a few years since I've booked an AS award ticket, but it seems like now they don't open any supersaver space on their own metal until about a week after the calendar populates now.
The problem is, I want to book a partner business ticket, but business class availability seems to dry up within a day or two of the calendar opening up, and I would need a connecting flight on Alaska metal to the partner gateway which wouldn't be available until a week later.
Are there any workarounds for this? Just a lowly MVP, so I don't get waived change fees.
Edit: to clarify, there is no saver in any class of service on AS metal for a week after the calendar opens up. I'm not looking at F on Alaska exclusively.
The problem is, I want to book a partner business ticket, but business class availability seems to dry up within a day or two of the calendar opening up, and I would need a connecting flight on Alaska metal to the partner gateway which wouldn't be available until a week later.
Are there any workarounds for this? Just a lowly MVP, so I don't get waived change fees.
Edit: to clarify, there is no saver in any class of service on AS metal for a week after the calendar opens up. I'm not looking at F on Alaska exclusively.
Last edited by Schubial; Feb 17, 2020 at 1:52 pm
#161
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
It's been a few years since I've booked an AS award ticket, but it seems like now they don't open any supersaver space on their own metal until about a week after the calendar populates now.
The problem is, I want to book a partner business ticket, but business class availability seems to dry up within a day or two of the calendar opening up, and I would need a connecting flight on Alaska metal which wouldn't be available until a week later.
Are there any workarounds for this? Just a lowly MVP, so I don't get waived change fees.
The problem is, I want to book a partner business ticket, but business class availability seems to dry up within a day or two of the calendar opening up, and I would need a connecting flight on Alaska metal which wouldn't be available until a week later.
Are there any workarounds for this? Just a lowly MVP, so I don't get waived change fees.
James
#162
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 5
If you book an F/J award on a partner airline and there isn't Saver A on any AS connecting flight(s) to the partner gateway you can book into Saver W (economy) if available. If AS Saver A opens up, you can call to be moved into that space. Since it is an upgrade into the class of service you have already paid for on the partner airline, there would be no fee to make the change.
James
James
#163
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
James
#164
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 5
I set an EF alert for a friend that is flying on EK from Europe to LAX via DXB who added on LAX-HNL after a LAX stopover. Within 2 weeks I received the alert that 2 Saver A had opened up. My friend had no problem calling AS to be moved into the A space. The EK award is in October, the flight to HNL is in November and was booked in January. I wouldn't necessarily agree that nothing opens up outside a week of departure. I have been pretty successful in getting A space connecting to the Partner gateway at booking but also have had success months outside a week before. I have also been moved into A space without calling in when the aircraft changed from Airbus to Boeing.
James
James
- Booking calendar opens at 330 days out
- Partner business availability is typically booked by 228 or 229 days out
- No saver availability in any class of service on AS metal until ~320 days out. All I see are D, Z, and N fares.
Last edited by Schubial; Feb 17, 2020 at 2:42 pm
#165
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Sorry, I think we're still missing each other. What I'm seeing:
- Booking calendar opens at 330 days out
- Partner business availability is typically booked by 228 or 229 days out
- No saver availability in any class of service on AS metal until ~320 days out. All I see are D, Z, and N fares.
James