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Welcome to the Alaska Airlines Flame-Free Q&A Thread for 2018!

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Old Jul 31, 2018, 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by sturges
Since when has AS been sending QX E175s on SEA-LAX? Was looking for a flight today and saw a new flight # in the mix. It seems like more and more I'm seeing pmVX aircraft on this route (which I actively avoid), so this is a nice change ^
They are changing a lot of things up to put the right planes on the right routes and times. BOS-LAX for instance is moving to 737.
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Old Aug 1, 2018, 11:30 am
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Do some flights not allow checked bags period? Flying on an E75 and checkin on the app would not allow me to select the number of bags (only choice was 0). Checkin on the website skipped the checked bags page entirely. I need to check some bags for this flight...
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Old Aug 1, 2018, 5:16 pm
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Have a question about changing class of service at check-in counter. Say I've booked a discount ticket in Economy (V) and would like to bump to M or Y or business/first class. Can I do this at the airport when I check in? Are the rules different across airlines or is there any common rule that most airlines follow?
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Old Aug 1, 2018, 5:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Domo5
Have a question about changing class of service at check-in counter. Say I've booked a discount ticket in Economy (V) and would like to bump to M or Y or business/first class. Can I do this at the airport when I check in? Are the rules different across airlines or is there any common rule that most airlines follow?
Yes, you can upfare to a higher fare bucket or cabin at any time prior to when ticketing closes prior to flight, if the desired fare is still available. You will have to pay the fare difference and the change fee unless you're Gold or 75K or (missydarlin please correct me if I've got it wrong here) you're upfaring to a refundable F fare. An agent may waive the change fee for upgrading to a non-refundable First P fare but it's totally at their discretion and should not be counted on.

If U space is available after any elites have cleared, you may be able to purchase an upgrade but this will not change your original booked fare class as far as mileage earning is concerned.

ETA: If you're wishing to increase your mileage earnings, best time to upfare is closest to your original booking. Within 24 hours of the original ticket purchase, the change fee is waived for MVPs & non-elites, and depending how far out you're upfaring, your desired fare class may have better availability. If the price drops afterwards, you can take advantage of Alaska's low price guarantee and refund the difference as a future travel credit.
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Old Aug 1, 2018, 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by rustykettel


Yes, you can upfare to a higher fare bucket or cabin at any time prior to when ticketing closes prior to flight, if the desired fare is still available. You will have to pay the fare difference and the change fee unless you're Gold or 75K or (missydarlin please correct me if I've got it wrong here) you're upfaring to a refundable F fare. An agent may waive the change fee for upgrading to a non-refundable First P fare but it's totally at their discretion and should not be counted on.

If U space is available after any elites have cleared, you may be able to purchase an upgrade but this will not change your original booked fare class as far as mileage earning is concerned.

ETA: If you're wishing to increase your mileage earnings, best time to upfare is closest to your original booking. Within 24 hours of the original ticket purchase, the change fee is waived for MVPs & non-elites, and depending how far out you're upfaring, your desired fare class may have better availability. If the price drops afterwards, you can take advantage of Alaska's low price guarantee and refund the difference as a future travel credit.
Thank you for the quick reply!!
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Old Aug 1, 2018, 7:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Domo5
Thank you for the quick reply!!
You are most welcome, and welcome to FlyerTalk!

(My apologies for not welcoming you initially- the post count doesn't show up in the mobile version of FT)
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Old Aug 1, 2018, 8:05 pm
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Originally Posted by rustykettel

If U space is available after any elites have cleared, you may be able to purchase an upgrade but this will not change your original booked fare class as far as mileage earning is concerned.



If U class is available at ANYTIME, an eligible fare will ALWAYS be upgraded before ANY in the upgrade request queue.

If you upfare to an eligible fare for an immediate upgrade to F when U is available you would still get the Class of Service Bonus on the underlying fare class upgraded to. If you upgraded to Y or S class you would still get a 50% COS and a 25% COS for M & B. MVP can upgrade to F from Y & S, MVPG can upgrade from Y, S, M & B and MVPG75K can upgrade from Y, S, M, B & H. Of course H does not have a COS Bonus.

As fares tend to increase closer to the departure date, an upfare sooner is better than later especially if U is available and you get a price guarantee. I am not certain on the change fees for upfaring as I have always had the MVPG+ waiver.

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Old Aug 1, 2018, 8:29 pm
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I just sent a quick tweet to Alaska. There is NO CHANGE FEE to upfare an existing reservation.

James

My tweet!

If an MVP would like to upfare to an eligible fare for immediate upgrade into available U space, would the change fee apply? I know MVPG+ have a fee waiver but I am not sure for a MVP who is only upfaring.

Thank you.

Alaska's Reply

Hi there! There wouldn't be a change fee if it's for the same flight you would only pay the difference in fare for the higher class of service -Rae
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Old Aug 1, 2018, 10:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Flying for Fun
If U class is available at ANYTIME, an eligible fare will ALWAYS be upgraded before ANY in the upgrade request queue.
Good point^ I was assuming that the OP didn't have status, which may be incorrect.

Originally Posted by Flying for Fun
I just sent a quick tweet to Alaska. There is NO CHANGE FEE to upfare an existing reservation.
Interesting, because I have run into a change fee on an upfare (was for a non-status pax) and missy has stated the same in other threads here.

I wish AS would publish a upfare exception on their website, along other ticketing related policies that you have to suss out from either here on FT or from trial & error.
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 3:05 am
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Originally Posted by rustykettel
Good point^ I was assuming that the OP didn't have status, which may be incorrect.
If the OP did not have status s/he would not be able to purchase an eligible fare and upgrade. The OP could upfare to a higher class for a COS bonus but would be ineligible to upgrade into U without status. The only way a non-status could upgrade into U would be with a gifted GGU and a purchased fare at K class or higher.

Interesting, because I have run into a change fee on an upfare (was for a non-status pax) and missy has stated the same in other threads here.
I don't know your itinerary specifics however my question to AS was specifically related to an MVP upfaring. I might have erroneously assumed it was applicable to anyone upfaring when it might be waived for any status but not for non-status. That would need to be further clarified.

James

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Old Aug 2, 2018, 10:57 am
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What does the "pm" in "pmVX" mean?
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 11:06 am
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Originally Posted by StevieTopSiders

What does the "pm" in "pmVX" mean?
pre merger
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Flying for Fun
If the OP did not have status s/he would not be able to purchase an eligible fare and upgrade. The OP could upfare to a higher class for a COS bonus but would be ineligible to upgrade into U without status. The only way a non-status could upgrade into U would be with a gifted GGU and a purchased fare at K class or higher.



I don't know your itinerary specifics however my question to AS was specifically related to an MVP upfaring. I might have erroneously assumed it was applicable to anyone upfaring when it might be waived for any status but not for non-status. That would need to be further clarified.

James
Thanks @rustykettel for the warm welcome, and thanks everyone for the discussion!!

@rustykettel - your assumption is correct that I don't have AS status (yet). I moved to the west coast recently and just started with AS. I was previously on UA and decided to move on to AS after my relocation.

@Flying for Fun - You are correct. I'm exploring options to upfare, not a complimentary upgrade, which I'm not eligible.

A follow up question would be - does it always make sense to upfare as early as possible? For AS partners who do not have low price guarantee or whatsoever, is it likely that I get a lower price closer to the departure date, or on the departure day at the airport?
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 2:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Domo5
Thanks @rustykettel for the warm welcome, and thanks everyone for the discussion!!

@rustykettel - your assumption is correct that I don't have AS status (yet). I moved to the west coast recently and just started with AS. I was previously on UA and decided to move on to AS after my relocation.

@Flying for Fun - You are correct. I'm exploring options to upfare, not a complimentary upgrade, which I'm not eligible.

A follow up question would be - does it always make sense to upfare as early as possible? For AS partners who do not have low price guarantee or whatsoever, is it likely that I get a lower price closer to the departure date, or on the departure day at the airport?
Why would you ever want to upfare from V to M/Y if you aren't eligible for upgrades? M and Y fares are still economy-class and you will simply be paying more for the same seat. The only added benefit would be additional miles earned, but they can be purchased directly for MUCH cheaper.

To answer your last question. Airline tickets are cheapest when the computer decides to make them cheaper. It is based on demand/supply and can some times be cheap day-of-departure, and sometimes 8 months out.
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Old Aug 2, 2018, 2:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Domo5

]Thanks @rustykettel for the warm welcome, and thanks everyone for the discussion!!

@rustykettel - your assumption is correct that I don't have AS status (yet). I moved to the west coast recently and just started with AS. I was previously on UA and decided to move on to AS after my relocation.

@Flying for Fun - You are correct. I'm exploring options to upfare, not a complimentary upgrade, which I'm not eligible.

A follow up question would be - does it always make sense to upfare as early as possible? For AS partners who do not have low price guarantee or whatsoever, is it likely that I get a lower price closer to the departure date, or on the departure day at the airport?
^
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