Aug 30, 2017, 3:16 pm
Last edit by: CDKing
Alaska Airlines (AS) partnership with Singapore Airlines (SQ)
Earning
Beginning September 27, 2017.
For earning rates See Partner Page
Eligible flight numbers (No Silkair)
0001–0999
Burning:
Award Charts:
Earning
Beginning September 27, 2017.
For earning rates See Partner Page
Eligible flight numbers (No Silkair)
0001–0999
Burning:
Award Charts:
(see note below for definition of "Continental USA", "SE Asia" and "South Pacific" )
SE Asia-SE Asia: 17,500 Y, 25,000 J 35,000 F
North Asia-SE Asia: 22,500 Y 60,000 J, 75,000 F
North Asia-SE Asia: 22,500 Y 60,000 J, 75,000 F
SE Asia-Middle East/India 25,000 Y 65,000 J 85,000 F
SE Asia-South Pacific 30,000 Y 65,000 J 90,000 F
SE Asia-Europe 42,500 Y 110,00 J 160,000 F
North Asia-Europe 65,000 Y 175,000 J 240,000 F
Middle East-Europe 60,000 Y, 160,000 J 210,000 F
Continental USA-North Asia: 40,000 Y 80,000 J 110,000 F
Continental USA-North Asia: 40,000 Y 80,000 J 110,000 F
Continental USA-SE Asia/India: 47,500 Y 100,000 J 130,000 F
Continental USA-South Pacific 70,000 Y 145,000 J 190,000 F
Note: Chart only allows contiguous US and Alaska as "USA", however, AS connecting flights to Hawaii/Canada/Mexico are allowed. No chart for USA-Europe (though in theory you could redeem SIN-USA or USA-SIN routing on SQ onestops involving Europe and get off the plane in FRA/MAN, pretty high price in miles though). Stopover in SIN not allowed on regional awards (Intra-Asia,including South Pacific) not touching US.
"North Asia" includes China (PEK/PVG) as per latest update by AS. South Pacific is Australia/New Zealand
Alaska + Singapore Airlines (SQ) Partnership - Earning, Redeeming and Questions
Aug 30, 2017, 1:24 pm
#47
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
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+1. I already credit my UA flights there since they earn 100% on any fare class credited to SQ. Plus you can transfer in from all 4 major currencies (SPG / UR / MR / TYP) which is the avenue through which to make longhaul J/F redemptions that are unavailable to partners.
Aug 30, 2017, 1:43 pm
#50
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Victoria, B.C.
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, AA Gold LT
Posts: 1,941
Count me as one who is not that excited. I doubt we will see many, if any awards in J or F on the long haul North America to Asia.
Sure, its great to have premium partners like CX, but if you can't book their awards, what is the point. Time will tell, and I would like to be proven wrong and see some SQ award redemptions to Asia.
Sure, its great to have premium partners like CX, but if you can't book their awards, what is the point. Time will tell, and I would like to be proven wrong and see some SQ award redemptions to Asia.
Aug 30, 2017, 1:55 pm
#51
Join Date: May 2009
Location: South Park, CO
Programs: Tegridy Elite
Posts: 5,678
SQ does have a stronger partnership with virgin Australia (velocity). You can transfer SQ miles to velocity miles (1.35-1 either
directions, not a good rate)
https://www.velocityfrequentflyer.com/content/ProgramBenefits/LatestNews/va-singapore-conversion/?error=login_required
and they allow suites redemption using velocity miles (or transfer velocity to SQ and redeem)
https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-australia-unlocks-singapore-airlines-first-class-rewards
So it's not an impossible thing for alaska-sq partnership, though you'll see more demand from alaska versus velocity
directions, not a good rate)
https://www.velocityfrequentflyer.com/content/ProgramBenefits/LatestNews/va-singapore-conversion/?error=login_required
and they allow suites redemption using velocity miles (or transfer velocity to SQ and redeem)
https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-australia-unlocks-singapore-airlines-first-class-rewards
So it's not an impossible thing for alaska-sq partnership, though you'll see more demand from alaska versus velocity
I was only addressing the suggestion that AS feed was going to be a game changer when UA already provides much greater feed to US ports. The lone Virgin Australia arrangement doesn't really make up for their general pattern thus far.
Would be happy to be surprised with the AS arrangement of course!
Last edited by 84fiero; Aug 30, 2017 at 2:05 pm
Aug 30, 2017, 2:18 pm
#52
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: USA
Programs: AS MVP; UA Gold; DL Gold; Marriott Titanium
Posts: 156
Aug 30, 2017, 2:48 pm
#53
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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Posts: 10,130
For JFK/LAX/SFO, SQ relies on B6 and VX (now AS) for feed. For example go search RDU - SIN or SEA - SIN, you'll notice that the feed is either B6 (RDU) or VX/AS (SEA).
I don't think it's a game-changer enough to force SQ to release long haul J awards to AS but this certainly is a big deal for feed since SQ's strategy has been to avoid *A frenemy UA if/when possible (especially after UA launched UA 1 SFO - SIN before they could launch SQ 31 SFO - SIN).
Here's the codeshare list from the SQ website: https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/u...ther-partners/
You can see UA has 8 total codeshare routes, while VX has 29 codeshare routes and B6 has another 20. If you add in the AS route network that AS + VX number only go higher which makes them SQ's most important US partner.
Last edited by Duke787; Aug 30, 2017 at 2:53 pm
Aug 30, 2017, 3:14 pm
#54
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
Aug 30, 2017, 3:24 pm
#55
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: SFO
Programs: BART Platinum, AA Plat Pro
Posts: 1,158
I do wonder if any of the other VX codeshare partners will become AS partners. SQ and VA were the only codeshare + Elevate earning partners (I'm assuming HA will not become a partner). Of the codeshare only partners, CZ, MU, and CI are all SkyTeam...of those three it seems like MU would be the most plausible candidate simply because they have the most mileage partnerships with non-ST airlines (e.g., CX, JL, QF).
Aug 30, 2017, 6:42 pm
#59
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Anchorage, AK
Programs: MVPG
Posts: 253
Not impressed (yet) until I see an award chart that includes SQ F & J seats (which I'm skeptical we will see)...
If we don't see their F & J awards, I hope Alaska doesn't offer up Alaska F award seats either...
If we don't see their F & J awards, I hope Alaska doesn't offer up Alaska F award seats either...
Aug 30, 2017, 8:34 pm
#60
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Location: BOS/ORH
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AS will allow saver F just like they do to Korean Air, another example of a partner where AS members also can't book all available cabins. SQ has a lot more to offer to AS members than AS does to SQ which is why SQ isn't going to give AS the keys to the kingdom.
Last edited by CDKing; Aug 30, 2017 at 9:52 pm