Jun 28, 2017, 8:46 pm
Last edit by: eponymous_coward
Cathay Award Guide Using Alaska Airlines Miles
Note: Cathay flights cannot be booked using alaskaair.com. Mileage requirements in chart form available on alaskaair.com.
Routing Rules:
North American Gateway Cities:
Western
Vancouver
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Seattle (Spring 2019)
Eastern (Can not be used if traveling to west coast)
Boston
Chicago
New York (JFK & EWR)
Toronto
Washington
Award Chart Links*:
Asia
Australia
Europe
India/Middle East
North America
Anyone with 90 posts and 90 days can edit the wiki. Everyone else if you want something added to the wiki please comment in the thread.
Note: Cathay flights cannot be booked using alaskaair.com. Mileage requirements in chart form available on alaskaair.com.
Request your Partner Award reservation on Cathay Pacific by calling Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily.
- If it's not on the award chart, it's not allowed. For example EUROPE is To/From HKG only.
- Stopover are only allowed on any CX award for North America awards as destination or origin. For instance: intra-Asia awards do not get a stopover. It must be a North America->Somewhere or Somewhere->North America award to qualify for a stopover.
- The only awards that do not break at HKG are intra-Asia or North American ones. For instance, Australia-Europe/Middle East/Asia outside of HKG will be two awards (breaking at HKG). The AS award chart can be misleading about this and give you the impression you can fly an award like Australia/Europe-ICN, but the chart for these award types will show "Hong Kong".
- One stop-over allowed on one way award. You can build open jaw and other advanced routings by booking multiple one way awards. Please note change fee rule below.
- Allegedly stop-over only in Hong Kong, but some have posted success in other enroute cities such as YVR or SEA.
- As of 5 June 2018 changes/cancellations made to a booking will incur a $125 fee which is waived for MVPG/MVPG75K. Bookings made prior to 5 June will be allowed one complimentary change or cancellation for up to 60 days prior to date of travel.
- Awards can be booked 330 days in advance.
- Cathay and Alaska (or an Alaska flight operated by SkyWest/Horizon on behalf of Alaska) are the only airlines allowed on a Cathay award. No other partner airlines may be used on a single award (e.g. American, JAL, Emirates).
North American Gateway Cities:
Western
Vancouver
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Seattle (Spring 2019)
Eastern (Can not be used if traveling to west coast)
Boston
Chicago
New York (JFK & EWR)
Toronto
Washington
Award Chart Links*:
Asia
Australia
Europe
India/Middle East
North America
Anyone with 90 posts and 90 days can edit the wiki. Everyone else if you want something added to the wiki please comment in the thread.
Cathay Pacific (CX) Award Redemption, Booking and Availability 2017 and Later
Jun 27, 2018, 10:01 am
#2401
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 66
DATA POINT:
Unless I am missing something, HKG-BKK and vice versa on CX in J (or even C), which was once ubiquitously available both close in and farther out, is now completely gone.
Nothing, zilch, zip, nada.
Searching via both BA & Qantas.
Unless I am missing something, HKG-BKK and vice versa on CX in J (or even C), which was once ubiquitously available both close in and farther out, is now completely gone.
Nothing, zilch, zip, nada.
Searching via both BA & Qantas.
Jun 27, 2018, 10:33 am
#2402
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
The usual success for me. Quite a lot of flights with 1 F space according to BA site JFK-HKG & BOS-HKG week of 5/20/19. I called and booked no problem. On my date two different flights had 1 seat and agent saw both flights. I decided to fly out of JFK instead of Boston for a more premium experience and more reasonable timing.
Though one mistake on the agents part (said she hadn't booked one yet) i was charged for the $15 phone booking fee so I'll have to call to get that refunded.
Though one mistake on the agents part (said she hadn't booked one yet) i was charged for the $15 phone booking fee so I'll have to call to get that refunded.
Last edited by CDKing; Jun 27, 2018 at 10:55 am
Jun 27, 2018, 3:32 pm
#2403
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
I don't think most of this is accurate. I had no trouble finding leg-by-leg availability for many CX flights on BA's site in the past that isn't there anymore unless I search for married segments. The J and F availability is also WAY down versus what we saw two weeks ago.
As for availability deteriorated, again, it started from 9 months ago and getting worse and worse, long before the actual restructuring of Asia Miles. In fact due to the deterioration was so bad since beginning of this year, about 3 weeks ago a friend and I were discussing whether we should continue to send miles to AS program or not, given we both still have quite a healthy balance that would cover the needs in 2019 and beyond. We decided to wait after June 22nd to see what the new reality might be. What we saw just confirmed what we had been feared for. Can't say we have not foreseen this but it still makes me fell sad seeing what happened.
Most people here only focus on the US-HKG longhaul routes, but the availability has been reduced on all routes, especially the once extremely reliable EU-HKG routes which were the most favorable routes to us as it was great to construct a RTW trip and often not much competition. Said routes have not seen anything available for the past few months.
The other routes are the shuttle flights routes to/from HKG such as the HKG-BKK/SIN, or HKG-TPE. These routes used can be booked on the day of departure and still have plenty of options.
Jun 27, 2018, 4:23 pm
#2404
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Alaska 75K
Posts: 91
Do within Asia awards open up close in like North America -> HKG? Just booked YVRHKG for Friday and need to get to BKK but no availability as of yet.
Jun 27, 2018, 5:58 pm
#2405
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
CX701 1F 15:55-17:50
CX709 1J 22:25-00:15
Also HKG-SIN-BKK CX759/CX712 J June 30th but probably too early to connect from YVR inbound.
James
Jun 27, 2018, 6:19 pm
#2406
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Alaska 75K
Posts: 91
Jun 27, 2018, 6:42 pm
#2407
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Thanks James - Im trying to get out of HKG to BKK June 30 evening on a direct. My inbound from YVR arrives around 7pm. Im already booked on one that goes out 7/1. Trying to move my trip up by 12 hours if I can. First world problems, I know :-) I might just buy AirAsia for couple hundred.
It looks like your options are limited on other airlines for non-stop to BKK on June 30th that are late enough to connect to.
Honk Kong Airlines 10:45-12:45 am $309 CAD
Royal Joridian 9:35-11:25 $332 CAD or Emirates 9:50-11:45 $375 CAD. Couple of others too expensive.
James
Jun 27, 2018, 8:06 pm
#2408
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 66
Yes, as of today I am now seeing these awards available again on ba.com (HKG-BKK) with perhaps a little bit less space than before. *sigh of relief*
Jun 28, 2018, 12:59 pm
#2410
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: AC, AS, BA Silver/OW Sapphire, DL, SQ/*A Silver, Bonvoy Gold, HH Gold
Posts: 161
I was looking into alaskaair.com for CX biz class from both TLV and YYZ this winter one-way. The TLV shows absolutely no availability in the first Q of 2019, could it be it is a relatively new destination or should I actually call AS?
As per the YYZ routing, it does show flights yet none in the attractive 50k miles, would that also merit a call to AS?
Sorry if I missed a possible answer in the 161 pages above...I am actually trying to get to MNL, would that be possible on a single o/w to/from either TLV/YYZ?
Would appreciate any insight...
As per the YYZ routing, it does show flights yet none in the attractive 50k miles, would that also merit a call to AS?
Sorry if I missed a possible answer in the 161 pages above...I am actually trying to get to MNL, would that be possible on a single o/w to/from either TLV/YYZ?
Would appreciate any insight...
Jun 28, 2018, 1:46 pm
#2411
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Programs: Hyatt LT Globalist, Marriot LT Titanium, UA 2.4MM, HH Gold, AS MVPG
Posts: 3,400
I was looking into alaskaair.com for CX biz class from both TLV and YYZ this winter one-way. The TLV shows absolutely no availability in the first Q of 2019, could it be it is a relatively new destination or should I actually call AS?
As per the YYZ routing, it does show flights yet none in the attractive 50k miles, would that also merit a call to AS?
Sorry if I missed a possible answer in the 161 pages above...I am actually trying to get to MNL, would that be possible on a single o/w to/from either TLV/YYZ?
Would appreciate any insight...
As per the YYZ routing, it does show flights yet none in the attractive 50k miles, would that also merit a call to AS?
Sorry if I missed a possible answer in the 161 pages above...I am actually trying to get to MNL, would that be possible on a single o/w to/from either TLV/YYZ?
Would appreciate any insight...
Jun 28, 2018, 3:47 pm
#2412
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,397
Note: Cathay flights cannot be booked using alaskaair.com
The only awards that do not break at HKG are intra-Asia or North American ones.
Jun 28, 2018, 3:58 pm
#2413
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
The usual success for me. Quite a lot of flights with 1 F space according to BA site JFK-HKG & BOS-HKG week of 5/20/19. I called and booked no problem. On my date two different flights had 1 seat and agent saw both flights. I decided to fly out of JFK instead of Boston for a more premium experience and more reasonable timing.
Though one mistake on the agents part (said she hadn't booked one yet) i was charged for the $15 phone booking fee so I'll have to call to get that refunded.
Though one mistake on the agents part (said she hadn't booked one yet) i was charged for the $15 phone booking fee so I'll have to call to get that refunded.
Jun 28, 2018, 7:35 pm
#2414
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 318
Do 2 F ever open up, or is J the best we can hope for?
We can book up to 330 days as we have a pretty good idea of when we want to go.
Would prefer from YVR, but can make ourselves in any west coast city.
Thanks.
We can book up to 330 days as we have a pretty good idea of when we want to go.
Would prefer from YVR, but can make ourselves in any west coast city.
Thanks.
Jun 28, 2018, 8:01 pm
#2415
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: HH Diamond, Kimpton IC, Marriott Plat, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 549
I havent seen more than 1 F per flight recently. I just took 1 F and 1J (wife in F and me in the mini cabin 2 rows behind) from hkg to lax next April.