Dec 6, 2016, 7:53 pm
Last edit by: DoubleWidesFly
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier
Feb 22, 2019, 9:43 am
#706
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Here is a multi-city search:
Outbound
ORD-SIN 1/8
Return
SIN-TYO 1/13
TYO-ORT 1/17
Feb 22, 2019, 12:04 pm
#708
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
Feb 22, 2019, 4:08 pm
#709
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 480
This is great news!! I've got an award booking(SEA > SFO > HND > CAN) coming up. Any idea if I need to add my know travler number to my JL ticket. And if so, how I might do that. Tried last night online, but didn't see anywhere to do that.
Feb 22, 2019, 5:26 pm
#710
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
Try calling in to JL with your partner PNR from the reservation. JL hasn't updated their web forms yet. Worse case, you *should* be able have the check in agent add it.
Feb 22, 2019, 5:30 pm
#711
Join Date: Jul 2012
Programs: Delta Gold, Alaska Gold 75K, LATAM Black
Posts: 3,393
I cancelled a JFK NRT F award on March 12. Not sure if it went back or not
Feb 23, 2019, 5:50 am
#712
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: SAT
Programs: AA EXP BA Gold, TK Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AS 100K, QR PLT, SAS Gold, IHG Spire, AMR
Posts: 5,898
The only day in March with JFK-NRT F availability is March 4 (both flights), so unless it got snagged in the last few hours, it did not go back into inventory
Feb 23, 2019, 6:00 am
#713
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: AU
Programs: former Olympic Airways Gold (yeah - still proud of that!)
Posts: 14,406
I was so happy when I was able to book our flight to Japan and back in November with our AS miles, in business class going over and First coming back (via SFO). A week ago we discovered I had entered my husband’s first name as Wlliam, not the correct spelling. (I am curious how many caught that mistake on first reading). Totally my fault (poor eyesight for fine details). JL absolutely will not allow a name change on the tickets. The Partner Desk said they would try to work with JL to cancel and be-book, but that was not possible. So this morning I canceled the tickets and got our miles refunded.
Does JL return those award seats to inventory? And if so, any idea when? I can keep checking every hour if necessary, but not if it is futile. I have entered a search and alert request on Expert Flyer but do not know if that every works.
Thanks for your help and any suggestions. We cannot fly in Economy and cannot afford to purchase the business class seats. I am reluctant to wait too long for new JL award seats to show up, so after a few days I may just go and book ANA in Premium Economy, the direct flight from Seattle to NRT and back.
Does JL return those award seats to inventory? And if so, any idea when? I can keep checking every hour if necessary, but not if it is futile. I have entered a search and alert request on Expert Flyer but do not know if that every works.
Thanks for your help and any suggestions. We cannot fly in Economy and cannot afford to purchase the business class seats. I am reluctant to wait too long for new JL award seats to show up, so after a few days I may just go and book ANA in Premium Economy, the direct flight from Seattle to NRT and back.
Feb 23, 2019, 8:09 am
#714
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: LON
Programs: AS MVPG, Marriott Titanium, UA Silver
Posts: 1,350
I’m flying SEA-BOS-NRT-PVG in April. Currently planning on using the 144 hour visa as my flight out of China is PVG-HEL-ARN. Any experiences with AS/JAL on the visaless entry at check in?
Feb 23, 2019, 12:53 pm
#715
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
I think I saw your post over in the JAL forum where it was answered as a not a problem for the JL leg as long as you have your onward ticket printed and don't check in at the very last moment.
Feb 27, 2019, 6:55 pm
#716
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: WOH Globalist | IHG Platinum | HH Gold | MB Gold
Posts: 230
After 2 months of tracking, today I was able to snag a J seat for Mar last week on SFO - HND. Super excited.
Feb 28, 2019, 1:23 am
#717
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: YVR/LAX/PVG/TPE
Posts: 759
I think most seats for last week of Mar opened yesterday. But I saw QF has TYO-YVR for Mar 31 but not for AS, anyone knows if it is also 2 fewer J seats than whatever QF sees, just like CX availability?
Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 am
#718
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
No, there is not a 2 seat difference in availability. I have booked last seat J availability on JL. It was more likely a POS or inventory caching issue.
Feb 28, 2019, 8:10 am
#719
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: YVR/LAX/PVG/TPE
Posts: 759
yeah I guess that is probably the culprit. All kinds of wonky things going on, seems like some kind of married segment logic too, TPE-TYO-YVR has J seats and no Y seats, but if you search TYO-YVR there is just economy.
Feb 28, 2019, 8:35 am
#720
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Yes indeed. JL has a lot of married segment availability these days which restrict availability. You have to search for the end-to-end route you want, not just individual segments. You *should* be able to combine individual segments into a larger trip but finding availability on a multi-segment trip does not guarantee availability is available separately for the individual legs since the airline can restrict the sale to only married segments together.