$110 Companion Ticket Valid for COACH class only - Effective August 1st, 2012
Jul 17, 2012, 6:36 pm
#301
Moderator Communications Coordinator, Signatures
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: deep within the Eskimo lair
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If I'm flying AS its because DL didn't open up any award seats from Atl and I'm nonrevving after a 10 hour redeye and a 10 hour layover. If I'm coherent at that point I'll listen for the announcement
Jul 17, 2012, 6:43 pm
#302
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,222
Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly is the Chase Sapphire card? Is it an Amex, MC, Visa? I can't tell from looking at the website. I'm keeping my AS Visa (for now) because it is a Visa...for those places that don't take Amex. How does the Chase Sapphire fit in?
I cancelled my Starwood Amex because they raised the fee after my first year from $35 to $65. I now have a Hilton Amex. NO fee, for now.
I like to have cards that will be taken anywhere - my primary is my Hilton Amex, but if I'm to get rid of my AS Visa, what "Visa/and or MC" would you all recommend?
I cancelled my Starwood Amex because they raised the fee after my first year from $35 to $65. I now have a Hilton Amex. NO fee, for now.
I like to have cards that will be taken anywhere - my primary is my Hilton Amex, but if I'm to get rid of my AS Visa, what "Visa/and or MC" would you all recommend?
Jul 17, 2012, 6:55 pm
#303
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: Alaska 100K - MM, defender of shoes on the carpeted bulkhead 4ever, AA LT PLT, Hyatt Glob, HH Dia
Posts: 7,447
[QUOTE=I Love to Travel;18948195
While I can still use them for FC, I hadn't expected to see any "changes" to my current certificates. They added the reference to the "coach class only" after 7/31/12. In other words, I expected the T&C's to be worded exactly the same as when first issued. I don't recall the loss of certificate being there before if one makes flight changes. If it was part of the T&C's when certificate was issued, then that was the rule for this certificate. But, if it wasn't indicated, then this tells me that they can change the T&Cs on these certificates after they have been issued anytime they want.[/QUOTE]
IMHO, this is probably due to their content management system not doing a great job of discerning between two categories (before and after) of terms and conditions and just replaces information from the old with new.
While I can still use them for FC, I hadn't expected to see any "changes" to my current certificates. They added the reference to the "coach class only" after 7/31/12. In other words, I expected the T&C's to be worded exactly the same as when first issued. I don't recall the loss of certificate being there before if one makes flight changes. If it was part of the T&C's when certificate was issued, then that was the rule for this certificate. But, if it wasn't indicated, then this tells me that they can change the T&Cs on these certificates after they have been issued anytime they want.[/QUOTE]
IMHO, this is probably due to their content management system not doing a great job of discerning between two categories (before and after) of terms and conditions and just replaces information from the old with new.
Jul 17, 2012, 7:27 pm
#304
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: San Francisco
Programs: Amex MR, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold, AS MVP
Posts: 518
Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly is the Chase Sapphire card? Is it an Amex, MC, Visa? I can't tell from looking at the website. I'm keeping my AS Visa (for now) because it is a Visa...for those places that don't take Amex. How does the Chase Sapphire fit in?
Jul 17, 2012, 7:52 pm
#305
Moderator Communications Coordinator, Signatures
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: deep within the Eskimo lair
Programs: TubWorld, Bar Alliance, Borratxo Legendarium
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IMHO it has nothing to do with the content management system. They added that to clarify how the new rule applies.
Jul 17, 2012, 7:55 pm
#306
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: PBI
Programs: AS MVP
Posts: 425
Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly is the Chase Sapphire card? Is it an Amex, MC, Visa? I can't tell from looking at the website. I'm keeping my AS Visa (for now) because it is a Visa...for those places that don't take Amex. How does the Chase Sapphire fit in?
I cancelled my Starwood Amex because they raised the fee after my first year from $35 to $65. I now have a Hilton Amex. NO fee, for now.
I like to have cards that will be taken anywhere - my primary is my Hilton Amex, but if I'm to get rid of my AS Visa, what "Visa/and or MC" would you all recommend?
I cancelled my Starwood Amex because they raised the fee after my first year from $35 to $65. I now have a Hilton Amex. NO fee, for now.
I like to have cards that will be taken anywhere - my primary is my Hilton Amex, but if I'm to get rid of my AS Visa, what "Visa/and or MC" would you all recommend?
Jul 17, 2012, 7:56 pm
#307
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: PBI
Programs: AS MVP
Posts: 425
Jul 17, 2012, 9:28 pm
#308
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: GEG
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Lifetime SkyClub, AS MVP
Posts: 2,411
Jul 17, 2012, 9:33 pm
#309
Moderator Communications Coordinator, Signatures
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: deep within the Eskimo lair
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Jul 17, 2012, 9:39 pm
#310
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVPG
Posts: 608
Heard it too, exactly the same way, on Sunday on QX PDX-BIL.
Jul 17, 2012, 10:46 pm
#311
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Alaska
Programs: Alaska MVPG
Posts: 265
Well, Alaska management has certainly created a PR nightmare with this one. Twenty-one pages of posts and still going. Do they ignore it and hope it goes away or do they attempt to rectify it? Stay tuned 
Jul 17, 2012, 10:48 pm
#312
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: Alaska MVPG; SWA Preferred A; Hilton Honors Diamond...
Posts: 71
Jul 17, 2012, 10:54 pm
#313
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: Alaska MVPG; SWA Preferred A; Hilton Honors Diamond...
Posts: 71
Bottom line is, as a MVPG married to a MVP, this whole thing sucks! I spend a ton of money flying around the west coast and choose Alaska for selfish reasons; Yeah a bit bigger first class seat and a few (yuck) "meals" along with drinks but reality is the seat isn't great, in fact a lot of times my back hurts afterwards 
, the food really sucks most of the time, and the drinks...well not really worth an upgraded (paid thank you) or first class price I often pay. I get the Visa card to accrue the miles AND use the companion pass to take a (reduced) first class flight to Hawaii when I can. You take this away and what's left? Really not a heck of a lot more than I get on Southwest...Except for now they don't fly to Hawaii. Come On Alaska... WAKE UP!
, the food really sucks most of the time, and the drinks...well not really worth an upgraded (paid thank you) or first class price I often pay. I get the Visa card to accrue the miles AND use the companion pass to take a (reduced) first class flight to Hawaii when I can. You take this away and what's left? Really not a heck of a lot more than I get on Southwest...Except for now they don't fly to Hawaii. Come On Alaska... WAKE UP!
Jul 18, 2012, 12:14 am
#314
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Anchorage, AK
Programs: Lifetime AS 1MM & MVPG, AS MVPG100K, AA, DL, HH-G
Posts: 8,259
Jul 18, 2012, 7:31 am
#315
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: Alaska 100K - MM, defender of shoes on the carpeted bulkhead 4ever, AA LT PLT, Hyatt Glob, HH Dia
Posts: 7,447
$110 Companion Ticket Valid for COACH class only - Effective August 1st
I think clarity is a great excuse, but the two certs have different rules as they are different beasts. Keep the t&c separate for pre v post aug 1 issuance.