JFK-AKL diversions begin.

Old Sep 22, 22, 5:59 pm
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JFK-AKL diversions begin.

Already day 3 and tonights flight is being diverted to Fiji. What gives?

Perhaps Air NZ was bit too optimistic on operating these flights without the correct equipment?

The service is being sold and advertised and direct, non stop.

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Old Sep 22, 22, 6:18 pm
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Already day 3 and tonights flight is being diverted to Fiji. What gives?

Perhaps Air NZ was bit too optimistic on operating these flights without the correct equipment?

The service is being sold an advertised and direct, non stop.
May be they will just focus on it being direct in the branding. Then so long as the flight number doesn't change and later sectors don't leave before earlier sectors they can say it's a direct flight to the cows come home.

(Direct flights don't even need to use the same plane type for the entire flight)
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Old Sep 22, 22, 6:25 pm
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If they're already diverting in September, how are they going to manage during the northern hemisphere winter, when headwinds are at their strongest? I could see this turning into quite a PR nightmare, especially given the amount of hype that has gone into launching these "nonstop" flights.
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Heavy delays at JFK tonight due to 'VIP movement' – UN General Assembly traffic??
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Old Sep 22, 22, 7:32 pm
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Heavy delays at JFK tonight due to 'VIP movement' UN General Assembly traffic??
Very Inept Politicians.
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Old Sep 22, 22, 8:05 pm
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JFK delays are about as common as a slice of pizza in NYC.
Other flights departing on/about time tonight.
Look for further seat blocking going forward.
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Old Sep 22, 22, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by SqKiwi View Post
JFK delays are about as common as a slice of pizza in NYC.
Other flights departing on/about time tonight.
Look for further seat blocking going forward.
They really need to speed up the reconfiguration, and start working on some code 3s from the current 789s
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Old Sep 22, 22, 8:22 pm
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JFK delays are about as common as a slice of pizza in NYC.
Other flights departing on/about time tonight.
Look for further seat blocking going forward.
There are some flights esp in December / January where inventory is basically zero = they sold out. Meaning those flights are already set up for failure if further seat blocking is needed.
The 73Y seats NZ blocked = not enough for routine events.

The plane can carry 27J 33W 215Y
The plane actually carried 27J 33W 142Y ( 60Y pax without their bags)

They are going need more blocked seats for the Northern hemisphere winter. for sure, when the winds are the strongest.
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Old Sep 22, 22, 8:23 pm
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They really need to speed up the reconfiguration, and start working on some code 3s from the current 789s
Not sure they can do that as seats can often have a long lead time for supply chain stuff.

Was it 2018 or so when I think it Zodiac got behind on production and planes were waiting months for seats.
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Old Sep 22, 22, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by OpenSky View Post
There are some flights esp in December / January where inventory is basically zero = they sold out. Meaning those flights are already set up for failure if further seat blocking is needed.
The 73Y seats NZ blocked = not enough for routine events.

The plane can carry 27J 33W 215Y
The plane actually carried 27J 33W 142Y ( 60Y pax without their bags)

They are going need more blocked seats for the Northern hemisphere winter. for sure, when the winds are the strongest.
How do you know they haven't already blocked more?

They did say was X seats on the first flights & said throughout the year would block different amount of seats.

They may be blocked now as they are reserving more.
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Old Sep 22, 22, 10:53 pm
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"as of next week, we'll only be selling three seats on the plane".... "Oh wait, make that 0 seats, I forgot about the flight crew"... Mark it as sold out...
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Old Sep 22, 22, 10:56 pm
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Well, looks like less reason to buy SkyCouch as chances are your seats will be neighbour free anyway.
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Old Sep 23, 22, 2:58 am
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Is this such a huge problem? So long as people don't have to deplane, a fuel stop shouldn't be that much of a business issueespecially given the lack of appealing alternatives for NYC-AKL travelers. "Fine, it's a direct flight with a 45-minute stop on the way. What you gonna do about it?"

I might even start marketing it as a direct flight with a super-convenient seventh-inning stretch on the Nadi tarmac.
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Old Sep 23, 22, 3:52 am
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The NZ Herald article had the Air NZ staff mentioning the weather situation is high unusual and very unlikely to occur.

It's horrible timing given they have just launched it, but weather is a potential disruption for any flight.

I think diverting to Fiji is much better than their previous plan of leaving 60 bags behind!
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