JFK-AKL diversions begin.
#46
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#47
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Without a new crew the plane wouldn't have been able to take off again.
This isn't anything new and has happened quite a few times before.
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Lets give credit where credit is due. Since they capped this to 180 pax, the flight performance has improved.
What I have noticed though is NZ1 is still not consistently or close to consistently leaving JFK on time, with an average 1-2 hour delay, which in the evening in a very busy slot controlled airport is a problem.
NZ used to operate at LHR no? So I assume the crew knows the implications.
My guess is NZ still hasn't quite figured out the ground handling bugs yet.
What I have noticed though is NZ1 is still not consistently or close to consistently leaving JFK on time, with an average 1-2 hour delay, which in the evening in a very busy slot controlled airport is a problem.
NZ used to operate at LHR no? So I assume the crew knows the implications.
My guess is NZ still hasn't quite figured out the ground handling bugs yet.
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Not uncommon for a a320/321 to make an overnight dash to NAN with a fresh crew. If they know ahead of time that long-haul wide body is going to divert to NAN on its way to AKL. Often that have hours notice of it happening.
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Plus they always have spare crew on 24 hour standby to cover events like this (as well as coverage for sickness etc).
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Since they aren't allowed to fill the planes, they should put mattress pads on the 3-seaters in the economy and sell them as economy beds, at a higher price.
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#52
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That would undermine the sales of there SkyCouch product. Which converts 3x Y seats into a bed for two smallish people to share. The SkyCouch rows have leg rests that fold up to fill the gap between the rows, and they middle seat is blocked between the two pax travelling together.
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That would undermine the sales of there SkyCouch product. Which converts 3x Y seats into a bed for two smallish people to share. The SkyCouch rows have leg rests that fold up to fill the gap between the rows, and they middle seat is blocked between the two pax travelling together.
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Its too bad the plane doesn't continue to London, though the New York London market is very well served.
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Sounds like this passenger was bumped as part of the seat reductions. Pretty disappointing to lose an extra day off of such a long trip. Did NZ make a mistake by launching with so many seat unblocked?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/trave...-stopover.html
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/trave...-stopover.html
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That would undermine the sales of there SkyCouch product. Which converts 3x Y seats into a bed for two smallish people to share. The SkyCouch rows have leg rests that fold up to fill the gap between the rows, and they middle seat is blocked between the two pax travelling together.
Btw, did NZ came up with the SkyCouch product just because they couldn't fill the planes anyway due to the weight restrictions? I won't be surprised, lol...
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Well the seatblocking undermines the sky couch product anyway, because the empty 3-seaters are there (I assume) and they free, right?
Btw, did NZ came up with the SkyCouch product just because they couldn't fill the planes anyway due to the weight restrictions? I won't be surprised, lol...
Btw, did NZ came up with the SkyCouch product just because they couldn't fill the planes anyway due to the weight restrictions? I won't be surprised, lol...
#58
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Does it make sense with JFK. Made sense on the direct flight as when cabin crew got to London they went home and not hotels & lowers overall trip duration (AKL to AKL). And is more complicated to get reserve crew to London.
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I can still sleep with fasten middle seat belt in the 3-seater, although only when my back is on the backseat side...I have done it many many times, back when I was flying Y....
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I will take the free 3-seater for 17 hours any day than the extra paid skycouch for 4 hours....although the former is risky that you can get it, and the latter is guaranteed, I admit.
I can still sleep with fasten middle seat belt in the 3-seater, although only when my back is on the backseat side...I have done it many many times, back when I was flying Y....
I can still sleep with fasten middle seat belt in the 3-seater, although only when my back is on the backseat side...I have done it many many times, back when I was flying Y....