Nov 4, 2013, 1:57 pm
Last edit by: Gajan
Between 1 September 2013 and 31 March 2018 the co-branded Gold & Platinum Flying Blue American Express cards also gave you Level Miles for purchases at AF/KL.
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
- Silver: 15XP;
- Gold: 30 XP
- Platinum: 60 XP
Co-branded American Express cards: France and the Netherlands
Dec 22, 2020 | 12:40 pm
#841
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Ultimate/Platinum for life/Club2000, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 24,956
I finally received an email this morning confirming that I have benefited from the offer and I have received a 1st credit of 50 EUR. But this was for my 1st purchase. Now I am waiting for a 100 EUR credit for my 2nd purchase 
Dec 25, 2020 | 12:23 pm
#842
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Paris
Programs: AA LT Plat (4m+), AF Plat, A3 Gold, Hyatt Lifetime Globalist, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat/Ambassador
Posts: 2,721
Dec 26, 2020 | 12:13 am
#843
Join Date: Feb 2012
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, Le ClubAccor Gold
Posts: 915
Good thing is to cover eletronic devices however but it is bad to have 150 of deductible (not sure of the word)
Dec 26, 2020 | 4:06 am
#844
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Ultimate/Platinum for life/Club2000, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 24,956
Dec 27, 2020 | 12:29 pm
#847
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: TLS
Programs: FB PFL
Posts: 490
- 150€ deductible for rental car damage [instead of NO deductible]
- 150€ minimum deductible (10% of the sum, up to 500€) for travel incidents [instead of a 75€ minimum]
- 150€ minimum deductible (10% of the sum, up to 500€) for medical expenses/assistance [instead of a flat 75€ deductible]
For the "good" changes, they now also insure the theft of electronic devices 90 days after purchase (previously only non electronic devices were covered). I'm not sure if anyone ever uses this insurance, but....
Jan 4, 2021 | 7:13 am
#848
Join Date: Feb 2012
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, Le ClubAccor Gold
Posts: 915
As an example, for the regular Amex Plat card (but from a quick glance it seems similar for Gold and Centurion):
- 150€ deductible for rental car damage [instead of NO deductible]
- 150€ minimum deductible (10% of the sum, up to 500€) for travel incidents [instead of a 75€ minimum]
- 150€ minimum deductible (10% of the sum, up to 500€) for medical expenses/assistance [instead of a flat 75€ deductible]
For the "good" changes, they now also insure the theft of electronic devices 90 days after purchase (previously only non electronic devices were covered). I'm not sure if anyone ever uses this insurance, but....
- 150€ deductible for rental car damage [instead of NO deductible]
- 150€ minimum deductible (10% of the sum, up to 500€) for travel incidents [instead of a 75€ minimum]
- 150€ minimum deductible (10% of the sum, up to 500€) for medical expenses/assistance [instead of a flat 75€ deductible]
For the "good" changes, they now also insure the theft of electronic devices 90 days after purchase (previously only non electronic devices were covered). I'm not sure if anyone ever uses this insurance, but....
One huge difference is now that all travel insurance MUST include a AF/KL/TO ticket to apply. This is almost a killer condition to the benefit of the card because if you happen to make 20% of your flights outside of AF/KL (some direct routes are only on easyjet or ryanair for instance during getaways), then you should have another card to be able to have an equivalent coverage.
I guess that now, the only advantage in this card is the plat for two and 30/60xp if you happen to need it on some years.
Garantie Annulation et Report de Voyages(3)(4) et Garantie Interruption de Dplacement(3)(4) et Assistance Mdicale et Frais Mdicaux l'tranger(3)(4)
A partir du 1er avril 2021, pour pouvoir bnficier de ces Garanties, votre billet d'avion devra tre opr et/ou mis par Air France, KLM ou Transavia et intgralement rgl avec votre Carte AIR FRANCE KLM - AMERICAN EXPRESS PLATINUM ou avec vos Miles dans le cadre du programme de fidlit Flying Blue. Les franchises de ces Garanties restent inchanges.
A partir du 1er avril 2021, pour pouvoir bnficier de ces Garanties, votre billet d'avion devra tre opr et/ou mis par Air France, KLM ou Transavia et intgralement rgl avec votre Carte AIR FRANCE KLM - AMERICAN EXPRESS PLATINUM ou avec vos Miles dans le cadre du programme de fidlit Flying Blue. Les franchises de ces Garanties restent inchanges.
Jan 4, 2021 | 8:00 am
#849
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: mostly not far from AMS, otherwise NUE
Programs: FB Silver, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,422
Just called AMEX NL to "cancel" my FB Plat card to get a discount on the annual fee. I was asked what kind of discount I would like, so when I mentioned 300 EUR the agent said they'd have to check with their manager and get back to me.
Jan 4, 2021 | 8:26 am
#850
Join Date: Aug 2018
Programs: AFKL: Platinum, SAS: Diamond
Posts: 16
Apparently the manager was on holiday over Christmas and New Years, so the agent apologized and said that it could be a number of days before she would have any news to share.
Jan 4, 2021 | 8:51 am
#851
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: PWM/CDG
Programs: AF/KL Plat, AA Plat, HH Diamond
Posts: 793
It has been extended to AF/KL amex as well from April 1st 2021
One huge difference is now that all travel insurance MUST include a AF/KL/TO ticket to apply. This is almost a killer condition to the benefit of the card because if you happen to make 20% of your flights outside of AF/KL (some direct routes are only on easyjet or ryanair for instance during getaways), then you should have another card to be able to have an equivalent coverage.
I guess that now, the only advantage in this card is the plat for two and 30/60xp if you happen to need it on some years.
One huge difference is now that all travel insurance MUST include a AF/KL/TO ticket to apply. This is almost a killer condition to the benefit of the card because if you happen to make 20% of your flights outside of AF/KL (some direct routes are only on easyjet or ryanair for instance during getaways), then you should have another card to be able to have an equivalent coverage.
I guess that now, the only advantage in this card is the plat for two and 30/60xp if you happen to need it on some years.
Jan 4, 2021 | 9:36 am
#852
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Paris
Programs: AA LT Plat (4m+), AF Plat, A3 Gold, Hyatt Lifetime Globalist, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat/Ambassador
Posts: 2,721
Is this also the case on the classic Amex cards as well?
Jan 4, 2021 | 10:00 am
#853
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: PWM/CDG
Programs: AF/KL Plat, AA Plat, HH Diamond
Posts: 793
this has to be the most idiotic move ever- and for me as a consumer the final straw. If only AFKL/TO tickets are covered it is a severe devaluation. There are plenty of destinations not served by the group, not to speak of travel not originating or terminating in France.
Is this also the case on the classic Amex cards as well?
Is this also the case on the classic Amex cards as well?
Jan 4, 2021 | 10:15 am
#854
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Paris
Programs: AA LT Plat (4m+), AF Plat, A3 Gold, Hyatt Lifetime Globalist, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat/Ambassador
Posts: 2,721
The only way around it seems to be AF/KL issued tickets (so you could get a DL or maybe even JL ticket issued by AF/KL), but you may not have access to the cheapest fares, will have to pay a phone booking fee, and in any case, you wouldn't be able to book low-cost carriers like U2. Are they not concerned about retaining their premium card customers during a pandemic?
instead of trying to retain customers Amex seems to do everything in its power to devalue its product. Not that it will make much of a difference but I want to write but oh, they dont have any email address nor social media presence... in 2021. Big thumbs down. 👎
May be time to look at standalone policies.
Jan 4, 2021 | 10:15 am
#855
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Paris
Programs: AA LT Plat (4m+), AF Plat, A3 Gold, Hyatt Lifetime Globalist, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat/Ambassador
Posts: 2,721
The only way around it seems to be AF/KL issued tickets (so you could get a DL or maybe even JL ticket issued by AF/KL), but you may not have access to the cheapest fares, will have to pay a phone booking fee, and in any case, you wouldn't be able to book low-cost carriers like U2. Are they not concerned about retaining their premium card customers during a pandemic?
instead of trying to retain customers Amex seems to do everything in its power to devalue its product. Not that it will make much of a difference but I want to write but oh, they dont have any email address nor social media presence... in 2021. Big thumbs down. 👎
May be time to look at standalone policies.