Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Première » Outlook
May 14, 2024, 1:18 am
#2941
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: AF/KL FB Plat ; A3 Gold ; HH Gold ; IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 2,385
Per Air France, here is what you can expect to pay if they do decide to charge you:
Ticket use
The fare is applicable for a ticket used fully, in sequential order for the specified journey and on the specified dates. As outlined in the General Conditions of Carriage, any non-compliant use noticed on the day of travel may incur an additional fixed-rate fee at the airport for the amount of: - for flights in Europe (including Metropolitan France and Corsica) € 125 in Economy and € 300 in Business; - for intercontinental flights € 500 in Economy and Premium Economy and € 1.500 in Business and La Première (or the equivalent in the local currency) .However, if you just want to forfeit all the last segments of a ticket after a given point, there is no such fee if you don't have checked bags. If you have bags in transit and what to retrieve them although you don't have a stopover ticketed at the transit point, there is another kind of fee I think.
May 18, 2024, 4:34 am
#2943
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: FB Platinum, AA Plat/2MM, SPG Plat/LT Gold
Posts: 386
May 18, 2024, 10:43 pm
#2944
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,837
Arriving in DXB
Was wondering if I am transferring to a QR flight after landing on AF LP will I be able to use the lounge AF uses there? The 77W turns around 2 hours later I believe so it should be open. Not even sure the name of the lounge but would the escort with the golf cart be able to take me there? Or will I not have access as my onward is not Sky Team?
If not allowed to use that lounge would the escort be able to take me to the lounge QR uses? I believe both QR and AF are in T1..
Lastly, any of you had to spend 10 hours at DXB and do you think its crazy to spend all that time in the lounge, especially since its not EK F... I'll have to seek out a Dubai forum and see about hotels near the airport Vs. the airport hotel.
If not allowed to use that lounge would the escort be able to take me to the lounge QR uses? I believe both QR and AF are in T1..
Lastly, any of you had to spend 10 hours at DXB and do you think its crazy to spend all that time in the lounge, especially since its not EK F... I'll have to seek out a Dubai forum and see about hotels near the airport Vs. the airport hotel.
May 18, 2024, 11:05 pm
#2945
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: BA Gold, AA Exec Plat, FB Platinum
Posts: 117
Booked a AF flight in LP from FRA to SIN with a 7 hour layover in CDG. My first LP experience was not up to my expectations, hoping that was a one off experience and this will be better. Fingers crossed. For the Spa in the LP lounge in Paris, is advance booking possible?
May 19, 2024, 12:06 am
#2946
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,646
Was wondering if I am transferring to a QR flight after landing on AF LP will I be able to use the lounge AF uses there? The 77W turns around 2 hours later I believe so it should be open. Not even sure the name of the lounge but would the escort with the golf cart be able to take me there? Or will I not have access as my onward is not Sky Team?
If not allowed to use that lounge would the escort be able to take me to the lounge QR uses? I believe both QR and AF are in T1..
Lastly, any of you had to spend 10 hours at DXB and do you think its crazy to spend all that time in the lounge, especially since its not EK F... I'll have to seek out a Dubai forum and see about hotels near the airport Vs. the airport hotel.
If not allowed to use that lounge would the escort be able to take me to the lounge QR uses? I believe both QR and AF are in T1..
Lastly, any of you had to spend 10 hours at DXB and do you think its crazy to spend all that time in the lounge, especially since its not EK F... I'll have to seek out a Dubai forum and see about hotels near the airport Vs. the airport hotel.
Today, you say that you are flying MEX-CDG in J, and now it is in P.
Anyway, AF flies to T2 and QR departs from T1. There is no golf cart transfer, for LP simply a car transfer.
You will no be able to use the LP (la Premiere) lounge as arrival lounge as your ticket end there without transit..
QR has a fabulous Business lounge at T1.
However, if you transfer international airside from T2 to T1, you will not be able to use it as it is pre-security and police.
To use it, you would have to enter France at T2, transfer to T1 landside and then go to the lounge.
This is not the forum to ask for DXB if arriving from QR and continuing on ....
May 19, 2024, 12:49 am
#2947
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,837
According to your many posts, You seem to be flying all over the world in a few days.
Today, you say that you are flying MEX-CDG in J, and now it is in P.
Anyway, AF flies to T2 and QR departs from T1. There is no golf cart transfer, for LP simply a car transfer.
You will no be able to use the LP (la Premiere) lounge as arrival lounge as your ticket end there without transit..
QR has a fabulous Business lounge at T1.
However, if you transfer international airside from T2 to T1, you will not be able to use it as it is pre-security and police.
To use it, you would have to enter France at T2, transfer to T1 landside and then go to the lounge.
This is not the forum to ask for DXB if arriving from QR and continuing on ....
Today, you say that you are flying MEX-CDG in J, and now it is in P.
Anyway, AF flies to T2 and QR departs from T1. There is no golf cart transfer, for LP simply a car transfer.
You will no be able to use the LP (la Premiere) lounge as arrival lounge as your ticket end there without transit..
QR has a fabulous Business lounge at T1.
However, if you transfer international airside from T2 to T1, you will not be able to use it as it is pre-security and police.
To use it, you would have to enter France at T2, transfer to T1 landside and then go to the lounge.
This is not the forum to ask for DXB if arriving from QR and continuing on ....
MEX-CDG is in J, as there is no F. And the reason to go to MEX is cause it was 80% less than flying from LAX.
My LP flight is CDG to DXB.
I think you were giving me info about transiting at CDG but my question is about arriving into DXB on LP and then transferring to QR.. There was golf cart service upon arrival last time so I am wondering can I ask the golf cart escort to take me to the lounge LP uses there or would I not be allowed in since I am continuing on with QR and not a Sky Team partner?
If I cant use that lounge I was asking would the golf cart be able to drop me at the QR lounge? Or maybe to the Health Club in T3? Just wondering if they will take me where i want or is it simply to passport/immigration as if you are exiting the airport. I have 10 hours at DXB and just trying to figure out what to do.
May 19, 2024, 4:57 am
#2948
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: FB Plat, *A Gold
Posts: 375
May 19, 2024, 7:49 am
#2949
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,646
Not sure where I said these questions are for the next few days....Although that said both my J & LP flight are within a few days of each other but not in the next few days.
MEX-CDG is in J, as there is no F. And the reason to go to MEX is cause it was 80% less than flying from LAX.
My LP flight is CDG to DXB.
I think you were giving me info about transiting at CDG but my question is about arriving into DXB on LP and then transferring to QR.. There was golf cart service upon arrival last time so I am wondering can I ask the golf cart escort to take me to the lounge LP uses there or would I not be allowed in since I am continuing on with QR and not a Sky Team partner?
If I cant use that lounge I was asking would the golf cart be able to drop me at the QR lounge? Or maybe to the Health Club in T3? Just wondering if they will take me where i want or is it simply to passport/immigration as if you are exiting the airport. I have 10 hours at DXB and just trying to figure out what to do.
MEX-CDG is in J, as there is no F. And the reason to go to MEX is cause it was 80% less than flying from LAX.
My LP flight is CDG to DXB.
I think you were giving me info about transiting at CDG but my question is about arriving into DXB on LP and then transferring to QR.. There was golf cart service upon arrival last time so I am wondering can I ask the golf cart escort to take me to the lounge LP uses there or would I not be allowed in since I am continuing on with QR and not a Sky Team partner?
If I cant use that lounge I was asking would the golf cart be able to drop me at the QR lounge? Or maybe to the Health Club in T3? Just wondering if they will take me where i want or is it simply to passport/immigration as if you are exiting the airport. I have 10 hours at DXB and just trying to figure out what to do.
May 19, 2024, 2:39 pm
#2950
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,837
All good, no worries. This around the world trip is even confusing for me to keep up with.
Really looking forward to flying AF in J on the new A350 seats. Was able to snag Row 1, it looks huge.
I hope my 2nd ever LP experience will be better than the first. I think I went in with too high of expectations the first time.
Really looking forward to flying AF in J on the new A350 seats. Was able to snag Row 1, it looks huge.
I hope my 2nd ever LP experience will be better than the first. I think I went in with too high of expectations the first time.
May 19, 2024, 4:00 pm
#2951
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: GRU
Programs: LH HON; UA GS; AF Plat; AA PP
Posts: 248
Booked a AF flight in LP from FRA to SIN with a 7 hour layover in CDG. My first LP experience was not up to my expectations, hoping that was a one off experience and this will be better. Fingers crossed. For the Spa in the LP lounge in Paris, is advance booking possible?
May 19, 2024, 5:21 pm
#2953
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,837
1) When the chaueffer pulled up no one was there to greet me or take me inside. I ended up having to go inside myself and find the lounge/check in area.
2) Going through security/metal detectors with the entire airport did not feel very premium
3) The lounge could have been 3-4 degrees cooler for my liking
4) The first shower I was given was broken.
5) The shower I finally got could have had 8-10 degrees hotter water
6) A private area with a full day bed where you could take a nap comfortably would have been appreciated
7) While the eggs were outstanding I did not find my lunch entree good at all
8) Onboard while the service was good and well intentioned but it felt a litlte too forced, almost like they were going through the motions
9) I found every single course to be either lacking texture, flavour or seasoning. I was super disappointed with the food onboard
10) I was not happy with the flat champagne onboard and overall was expecting better bubbles.
Feel free to share any or all of these
Last edited by happiest_at_40000; May 19, 2024 at 5:44 pm
May 19, 2024, 5:37 pm
#2954
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: The World! Home Base = DCA/IAD
Programs: HHonors, Hyatt GP, Marriott, Varying Levels w/ UA /AF /DL /SQ /AA
Posts: 2,670
May 19, 2024, 5:43 pm
#2955
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,837
)..The TK lounge at IST is an example of this but I think b/c its open air maybe not as many people are bothered but I was warm there.
My worse airport experience for being hot is at ZRH. The entire airport was like a sauna.
At any rate yes LP is on the small side and if its at a busy time no doubt it can feel very stuffy..
People can always layer up, but what can you do if you are overheating....