AF B787-900 Dreamliner configuration revealed
Sep 14, 2016, 7:21 pm
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AF B787-900 Dreamliner configuration revealed
Some details have leaked today about the AF Dreamliners 789 config : no P, 30J in 1-2-1 config (so at least they will not put the NEV4 on those new birds 
), 21W and 225Y. Total 276 seats
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), 21W and 225Y. Total 276 seatshttp://tylerbirth.boardingarea.com/e...-9-air-france/
Sep 15, 2016, 6:31 am
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Zodiac Aerospace is struggling to deliver seats right now, so it might be a similar configuration with a different seat manufacturer.
Sep 15, 2016, 1:32 pm
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Sep 15, 2016, 11:50 pm
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Boeing has been able to squeeze one more seat abreast on its 777 and 787 making it less comfortable for the pax compared to A330 or A350. But that is a benefit for the airline.
Airbus had launched a big advertising campaign stressing the fact.
A350 cabin is wider than B787 cabin (5.6m compared to 5.4m), so it is natural to fit 9 abreast on A350 with a seat width of 18" compared to 17" on dreamliner which was initially marketed with a 8 abreast config in Y.
Airbus had launched a big advertising campaign stressing the fact.
A350 cabin is wider than B787 cabin (5.6m compared to 5.4m), so it is natural to fit 9 abreast on A350 with a seat width of 18" compared to 17" on dreamliner which was initially marketed with a 8 abreast config in Y.
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Sep 16, 2016, 12:25 am
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Boeing has been able to squeeze one more seat abreast on its 777 and 787 making it less comfortable for the pax compared to A330 or A350. But that is a benefit for the airline.
Airbus had launched a big advertising campaign stressing the fact.
A350 cabin is wider than B787 cabin (5.58m compared to 5.4m), so it is natural to fit 9 abreast on A350 with a seat width of 18" compared to 17" on dreamliner which was initially marketed with a 8 abreast config in Y.
Airbus had launched a big advertising campaign stressing the fact.
A350 cabin is wider than B787 cabin (5.58m compared to 5.4m), so it is natural to fit 9 abreast on A350 with a seat width of 18" compared to 17" on dreamliner which was initially marketed with a 8 abreast config in Y.
Sep 16, 2016, 3:53 am
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When first introduced in 1995, 777 had a 9-abreast recommended config. EK, AF, EY and AA started directly with the unpleasant 10-abreast. Several airlines start taking new deliveries in 10-abreast or retrofitting their existing ac. These include UA, QR, AC, BR,... Even CX is considering.
The 9-abreast 777 is clearly more comfy than the 9-abreast A350, but the 10-abreast 777 or 9-abreast 787 are worse.
But please note that the A350 already has orders for 10-abreast (air Asia, Air Caraibes) and there are 9-abreast A330 . Both very unpleasant.
Sep 16, 2016, 5:07 am
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No, AF and AA didn't start directly with 10-abreast.
AF 772s remained for a long time (10 years at least) with the 3-3-3 config. The first 77Ws they received were also in the 3-3-3 config.
AA 772s were delivered with the 2-5-2 config, while their 77Ws were directly delivered either the 10 abreast config
AF 772s remained for a long time (10 years at least) with the 3-3-3 config. The first 77Ws they received were also in the 3-3-3 config.
AA 772s were delivered with the 2-5-2 config, while their 77Ws were directly delivered either the 10 abreast config
Sep 16, 2016, 9:58 am
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No, AF and AA didn't start directly with 10-abreast.
AF 772s remained for a long time (10 years at least) with the 3-3-3 config. The first 77Ws they received were also in the 3-3-3 config.
AA 772s were delivered with the 2-5-2 config, while their 77Ws were directly delivered either the 10 abreast config
AF 772s remained for a long time (10 years at least) with the 3-3-3 config. The first 77Ws they received were also in the 3-3-3 config.
AA 772s were delivered with the 2-5-2 config, while their 77Ws were directly delivered either the 10 abreast config
Sep 16, 2016, 6:24 pm
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No, AF and AA didn't start directly with 10-abreast.
AF 772s remained for a long time (10 years at least) with the 3-3-3 config. The first 77Ws they received were also in the 3-3-3 config.
AA 772s were delivered with the 2-5-2 config, while their 77Ws were directly delivered either the 10 abreast config
AF 772s remained for a long time (10 years at least) with the 3-3-3 config. The first 77Ws they received were also in the 3-3-3 config.
AA 772s were delivered with the 2-5-2 config, while their 77Ws were directly delivered either the 10 abreast config
Actually, my memory is hit by old age. I now remember how AF aggressively promoted their new 10-abreast more-comfy seats as an enhancement. Some posters even sided with AF.
I wonder which major airline was the precursor in adopting the 10-abreast config on 777.
Sep 16, 2016, 9:09 pm
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Not surprised by the lack of P seats.
It's going to be a long walk back from the W seats to the nearest lavs...
It's going to be a long walk back from the W seats to the nearest lavs...
Sep 17, 2016, 3:06 pm
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eh, eh, my history of AF 777s is faulty. Thanks for correcting.
Actually, my memory is hit by old age. I now remember how AF aggressively promoted their new 10-abreast more-comfy seats as an enhancement. Some posters even sided with AF.
I wonder which major airline was the precursor in adopting the 10-abreast config on 777.
Actually, my memory is hit by old age. I now remember how AF aggressively promoted their new 10-abreast more-comfy seats as an enhancement. Some posters even sided with AF.
I wonder which major airline was the precursor in adopting the 10-abreast config on 777.
BA configured some of their "Leisure" 772s with 10 abreast but passengers were so angry that BA switched back to 9 abreast on all of their 777s