"HOP!" will be new name of merged AF regional airlines
Mar 28, 2013, 1:00 pm
#181
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Mar 28, 2013, 3:33 pm
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Are you sure it wasn't the other way round? As far as I know, a flight earning 0 miles has always earned 0 segments. However, for French residents (except abonnes) for a long time, you have been able to earn miles but no qualifying segments. Also eligible non-skyteam partner flights (e.g. JL, MH, etc) will earn you 0 segments but some award miles.
And sure, the other way arounds happens frequently.
May 13, 2013, 12:43 pm
#183
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Just received confirmation from AF of what we were told previously by senior executives:
So you do get the extra baggage benefit on the cheapest fares both with Air France Mini fares and Hop! for Air France Basic fares. ^
Edited to add that the extra baggage benefit is specifically not extended to SkyTeam Elite+ customers from other FFPs as HOP! is currently not part of SkyTeam.
So you do get the extra baggage benefit on the cheapest fares both with Air France Mini fares and Hop! for Air France Basic fares. ^
Edited to add that the extra baggage benefit is specifically not extended to SkyTeam Elite+ customers from other FFPs as HOP! is currently not part of SkyTeam.
Is a link available yet?
Found link: http://www.flyingblue.com/news/1421/...n-flights.html
Last edited by lowestpaidsap; May 14, 2013 at 3:13 am Reason: update
May 14, 2013, 11:13 am
#184
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I am confused about level miles with Hop flights.
On FB site it is written that miles are only award:
http://www.flyingblue.com/earn-miles...r/211/hop.html
But the contrary is written in the TA link I mentioned earlier
https://www.afkl.biz/FR/fr/local/pro...DF/HOP_biz.pdf
I just have call FB to know exactly what's the point: only Maxi Flex fare earn level miles.
What is true?
On FB site it is written that miles are only award:
http://www.flyingblue.com/earn-miles...r/211/hop.html
But the contrary is written in the TA link I mentioned earlier
https://www.afkl.biz/FR/fr/local/pro...DF/HOP_biz.pdf
I just have call FB to know exactly what's the point: only Maxi Flex fare earn level miles.
What is true?
May 21, 2013, 7:41 pm
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May 23, 2013, 4:05 am
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I saw my first HOP plane last week when I arrived to LYS on a KL flight. I was the first to leave, but we were waiting for stairs to be pulled to the aircraft. Somehow it felt I should just hop out of the aircraft :P
Jun 7, 2013, 6:39 am
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I am confused about level miles with Hop flights.
On FB site it is written that miles are only award:
http://www.flyingblue.com/earn-miles...r/211/hop.html
But the contrary is written in the TA link I mentioned earlier
https://www.afkl.biz/FR/fr/local/pro...DF/HOP_biz.pdf
I just have call FB to know exactly what's the point: only Maxi Flex fare earn level miles.
What is true?
On FB site it is written that miles are only award:
http://www.flyingblue.com/earn-miles...r/211/hop.html
But the contrary is written in the TA link I mentioned earlier
https://www.afkl.biz/FR/fr/local/pro...DF/HOP_biz.pdf
I just have call FB to know exactly what's the point: only Maxi Flex fare earn level miles.
What is true?
Jun 8, 2013, 5:43 am
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This whole situation is ridiculous. Are we gluttons for punishment?
I booked a flight months ago, before I had even heard of "HOP!". I was told the flight will earn miles on the booking website (and count as a qualifying segment, and I can pick my seat at OLCI). Now it has magically converted into a no-miles-earning HOP! flight. If it wasn't for this thread, I probably wouldn't even have noticed until I tried to check-in. No one even had the courtesy to write to me or e-mail me to say the operating carrier has changed and some services paid for in the ticket price will be withdrawn.
In January I was pushing to re-qualify this year. I will take the train next time.
I booked a flight months ago, before I had even heard of "HOP!". I was told the flight will earn miles on the booking website (and count as a qualifying segment, and I can pick my seat at OLCI). Now it has magically converted into a no-miles-earning HOP! flight. If it wasn't for this thread, I probably wouldn't even have noticed until I tried to check-in. No one even had the courtesy to write to me or e-mail me to say the operating carrier has changed and some services paid for in the ticket price will be withdrawn.
In January I was pushing to re-qualify this year. I will take the train next time.
Jun 8, 2013, 10:02 am
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What about Basic Plus fares? The website says "400 miles offered". I do not like the wording. Are they award miles or status miles? Is it qualifying segment?
Jun 9, 2013, 4:22 am
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´Qualifying Flight´ is defined as the flights being made on Air France, KLM, SkyTeam Partners and any Airline Partner designated as such in FB Communication, excluding domestic flights in France made by Members having provided in his account a mailing address in mainland France or Monaco (except for those who have a Metropolitan France Discount Pass), for which both Level Miles and Award Miles can be earned.
Excepted "offre Mini" and on Chalair and Twinjet (only award miles)
how amusing!
Dec 21, 2013, 7:06 am
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Dec 21, 2013, 9:05 am
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"HOP!" will be new name of merged AF regional airlines
On the topic of HOP: I read an article today in ATW Air transport world, where an expert said "I understand where Air France is coming from, but it's like making an elephant dance ballet"
Dec 21, 2013, 11:21 am
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Nov 7, 2014, 5:06 am
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I'm still missing the experience of hopping on a HOP flight, while I'm still puzzled about their FB earning scheme. The information on the FB website is somewhat ambiguous.
My specific question is whether it is true that only the Maxi Flex fares earn level miles / qualifying segments or if Basic Plus does as well.
Probably the answer is already somewhere here on FT. Apologies in that case - I couldn't find it.
My specific question is whether it is true that only the Maxi Flex fares earn level miles / qualifying segments or if Basic Plus does as well.
Probably the answer is already somewhere here on FT. Apologies in that case - I couldn't find it.