Show me where I said someone should get a J seat if they only paid for Y :confused:

My post was about the nasty smart a$$ attitude from some AC staff. It's the PAYING passengers who are feeding you and don't you forget it.

How do you know that that offending pilot doesn't work for another airline and might just be on a paid first class ticket. I have had my company purchase last minute tickets and the only thing left was first class and I happened to be in uniform. Things are not always as they seem.

I am ashamed
 

Wow I ashamed to say I work for Air Canada when I see something like this.Pilots for Air Canada only worry about themselves and no one else.Thats why the other unions are not counting on any support from them in the up coming contract negots.Just remember this pilot boy when Milton and company are done with us who do you think is next on the list.Remember your jobs can be contracted out just as fast as the rest of us.

I have been very supportive of many AC issues.However,this one is one that I must strongly dis-agree with.
The impression I am getting is one of arrogance and entitlement.If you are suggesting that we are priviledged to be giving you our business,dream on.
I am hopeful your attitude is in the minority.:td:

As neither a Super Elite member nor a pilot, I think you both need an attitude adjustment.:rolleyes:

As an SE,you should know that AC J service is Executive 1st,IIRC,on international routes.:)

I am of a similar opinion.U/gs ,whether by cert or courtesy are from fares that were not purchased in J cabin.You get what you pay for.

Would you rather compensate one or two paid J passengers who are involuntarily downgraded to accommodate pilots, or would you rather compensate ALL J and Y passengers, because the plane is flying nowhere till the pilots sleep in a hotel - after 16 hours "sleeping" in Y seats they are simply too tired to fly the plane safely.

I am not in the best mood with Air Canada right now.
HOWEVER,
how many passengers on this board have been bumped from paid J for a pilot? Sounds very unrealistic actually unless I am uninformed.

Where do you get this CRAP??????? No your wrong! Captains cannot bump J cabin if its sold out.

Your belief is wrong, not even close. If one is confirmed in J, then they're confirmed in J. Obviously there're situations such as irregular operations/equipment change but what you described is wrong.

Thank you Mr. Yiu for real data as usual.
Of course, this is FT where conspiracy theories are always more interesting :)

I don't know how Air Canada works in this regard, but if a crew member is going to be operating a flight after they get off this plane, it gets to be a safety matter if they are not rested. Most carriers, pilots are given J if they will be operating a later flight.

Also, how do you know they didn't pay for or earn the upgrade? I've seen enough pilots in uniform with paid/upgraded tickets to not assume every pilot in the cabin is a non-rev.

Shows how little you know.......... if it wasnt for us PAYING to fly everywhere, you would be back flying a crop duster.:p

So perhaps YOU should not bite the hand that feeds you:rolleyes:

So Captains are not guaranteed J if they have to make an unexpected trip and there is a J cabin?

Scenario: What if there is no equipment change and J is full (all paying J pax), but a pilot in YVR must be on the next flight to YYZ to operate a flight out of YYZ, as the originally scheduled pilot cannot do it. Does the captain fly Y, or does a J pax get bumped?

You guys have got to be kidding. While i love the upgrade myself and with complain, jump up and down, and cry like a baby until i get one. HOWEVER, when i get passed up on an upgrade due to a pilot, i think of the fact some of these pilots sometimes dont even get a hotel room becuase airlines schedule their "lines" to minimize costs.

I would rather have a fully rested pilot who could have better reaction time in times of need.

And by the way, for you who say it doesnt make sense for a pilot to bump a high paying passenger in coach or first, have you thought about the cost the pilot would incurr the airline if he didnt show up to a flight he was scheduled to be at? What if it was YOUR flight?