Actually, mods and I discussed creating a wiki site that all could edit. My job just got too busy and I've been ignoring it for a while. I plan to start a new thread once I've got a little bit of a structure built. Stay tuned for more info! (and PM me if you see nothing within 1 week)

explain M class
 

Among the discussion of the new e-upgrades there is much mention of M booking class, which seems to be quite popular among some FF. What are the advantages of this class, other than requiring fewer points to upgrade at 7/4 day window than other T+ classes?

New Air Canada Aeroplan WIKI
 

Hi everyone,

This message is to "soft-launch" the Air Canada / Aeroplan Wiki. A wiki is a website that anyone can edit, and the moderators suggested to me that a wiki might be the best approach to keeping our FAQs up to date on this forum.

I'm posting this here, instead of in a new thread, so that it gets some attention from the keeners first before every FTer gets there. We can build it up to a reasonable state and then give it a new thread, and if we like it enough it can become the new FAQ host. If you wish to edit I recommend you sign up for an account rather than editing anonymously, so that if there's a debate about a certain point it's easier to contact the other person here on FT and discuss.

The AC/AE WIKI can be found here: http://flyerguide.com/wiki/index.php...anada_Aeroplan

Many sections have already been created, but require a bit of cleanup or updating - some of them haven't changed in over 3 years! Please stick to the current structure for now, and don't add new pages yet. Adding new pages too early usually causes extra maintenance later on. (just ask Simon and skofarrell how that thread-editing adventure went last week!)

I have not added the current booking classes, status benefits, or other information yet. If you wish to add them, please add links to any reference pages so people know where the information is coming from.

Please PM with any questions or suggestions! I will be offline a bunch during the holidays of course, but will dive back in around New Year's.

Great Idea!

Much better than saving hundreds of threads and having out-dated material!

Will think of topics and PM you.

Great idea. I'm currently doing a rewrite of the TT Levels page to incorporate tables and make comparisons between the levels easier.

Great alternative to updating threads. Need to bring over the booking classes from page 34 into the wiki.

OK. Having spent a bunch of hours playing with the wiki...

The FlyerGuide installation is missing all the basic abilities that make a wiki manageable. For instance there is no reference package installed and scripts don't work. So to reference the site you get information from goes from being easy, to brutal, and without references it is near impossible to keep a wiki current. And because script don't work, you can't easily add templates (for instance adding those expandable groupings at the bottom of pages like "Members of the IATA" is impossible without them. In short, while we can update the info on there, it's going to be very difficult to make it look good or make it easy to manage.

My suggestion is that we either setup a dedicated one somewhere else, or if we are going to stick to the facts (i.e. no opinions) we should just put everything on Wikipedia. There we could aim to turn the individual AC/AP pages into a strong group of pages covering everything AC. You would then have something like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:UPS) at the bottom of each page which pulls it all together.

Thoughts?

Good points. The install is very manual-effort focused. Perhaps Wikipedia would be a better host, I don't know. I think the concerns need to be separated out:

1. We need the factual information. (location doesn't mater, effort is the same)
2. We need good links to related information, good design options. (location matters, effort dramatically different)
3. We need people to maintain stuff. (location doesn't matter, but wikipedia could be subject to more vandalism/confused newbies)

#1 is the most important item, and the FlyerGuide site has more information at present than wikipedia does. Maybe we should continue updating FlyerGuide, then it can be migrated to wikipedia later?

rehoult, I have no time to work with either site for at least a week, probably more, so to be honest either site is just fine in my eyes. We just need (in my opinion) to make sure we pick one and not duplicate efforts in multiple places.

Agreed we need to focus effort in one place. I spent a few hours this week end updated the AC TT page with tables a la the AP website, but probably won't have much time until the new year either.

My concern with the lack of reference is things getting changed unnecessarily. For example, someone going "I KNOW that T/K fares are Tango and not Tango+" and changing that page to reflect that knowledge, not realizing that it changed and there is a post on AC.com announcing the change. Whereas consistent referencing reduces those as someone can click through to the supporting document/page from a reliable source. This is even more important when something might not have been published on AC/AP.com, but there is a post here from AY or BS clarifying it. In those situation a reference to the FT post is invaluable.

Perhaps the solution is to get in contact the FG admin and see if they could at least enable scripting. Given 8 or 10 hours of play time I could move the most important templates over from Wikipedia (God love GPL), but they won't work if scripting isn't enabled.

Speaking of M...
 

It's clear that M is the "bees' knees", so my question is: how do I book in M? It seems like one-way international and flight passes are booked in M; are they it?

you can call in to book your flight in M
you can book online using the upgradable fares option.
you can purchase a flight pass that books into M for you.

Pretty simple. some folks around here make it out to be some elusive, mysterious thing... its just another booking class, obtained using the same methods as any other.

I go through about 4 North America flight passes a year all in M. I find this to be the easiest. International travel of course, you dont get the FP option in M (YET:p)

JR

AC booking class equivalent for TG C
 

Not sure if AY still checks in on this thread, but here goes: Into which booking class on AC would a TG C fare book? This would be on a flight operated by AC--TG codeshare.

TG-C appears to be full fare Biz. I would assume that TC-C will map to AC-J as NH-C does. What routing are you considering?

Well will throw this out for the SG flyers ... any idea what SG fare classes AC "W" and "V" book into on SG? Thanks!

This is on YVR-HKG-BKK.