Put me in coach, JETZ begin mainline service June 1 in YYZ-YUL-YOW triangle
May 22, 2020, 1:13 pm
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As CZAMFlyer mentioned, I don't think there are many serious logistical complexities.
My biggest concern would be a mechanical issue requiring a swap to a regular 319 where you now have, at best, 14 upgrades and 44 downgrades. But it seems like they only need 2 for this rotation, so they could easily keep a spare in each of YOW/YUL, and two in YYZ.
My biggest concern would be a mechanical issue requiring a swap to a regular 319 where you now have, at best, 14 upgrades and 44 downgrades. But it seems like they only need 2 for this rotation, so they could easily keep a spare in each of YOW/YUL, and two in YYZ.
Why is Air Canada doing this, though?As Air Canada describes it, this is part of the carrier’s “ongoing effort to engage customers and bring forth new and innovative ideas.” Yeah, I’m not sure what exactly to make of this initiative:
I dunno, this is an odd one…
- Demand is virtually non-existent right now
- While people probably like the concept of “social distancing” or less crowded planes, chances are that most leisure travelers don’t want to pay 3x the economy fare for a 45 minute flight
- I could see the merit to a “business shuttle” in some of these markets during peak business times, but business travel is way down
- While Air Canada has been doing a great job engaging customers through its loyalty program, I’m not sure how exactly this engages customers?
I dunno, this is an odd one…
May 22, 2020, 1:28 pm
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So they keep the spare in YYZ, and if it goes mechanical in YOW or YUL, there's either a significant delay, or many unhappy downgraded passengers.
Doesn't sound like a great idea to me.
May 22, 2020, 1:37 pm
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Well none of these have been "math" mistakes. I just seem unable to read things like how many seats there are, or how many aircraft
So they keep the spare in YYZ, and if it goes mechanical in YOW or YUL, there's either a significant delay, or many unhappy downgraded passengers.
Doesn't sound like a great idea to me.
So they keep the spare in YYZ, and if it goes mechanical in YOW or YUL, there's either a significant delay, or many unhappy downgraded passengers.
Doesn't sound like a great idea to me.
May 22, 2020, 1:50 pm
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I really don't understand this. Who is going to pay for PY on these flights? No inflight service, just a bigger seat...while all other flights provide blocked seats in Y...
This would have been a great opportunity for AC to treat Y pax to a nicer ride.
I doubt it'll last long.
This would have been a great opportunity for AC to treat Y pax to a nicer ride.
I doubt it'll last long.
May 22, 2020, 2:14 pm
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May 22, 2020, 2:16 pm
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May 22, 2020, 2:34 pm
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(really).
May 22, 2020, 2:38 pm
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But with so much of the fleet parked right now, what happens if there's MX on a regular 319 or a 223? Do they have a spare sitting in YOW, or are they going to have to send a replacement from YYZ? I suspect the latter, which means no real difference in terms of IRROPs handling between the mainline and Jetz 319s.
May 22, 2020, 3:26 pm
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I mean I got a downgrade from a pod to a narrow body J seat YOW YYZ a few years ago. That’s pretty significant but stuff happens, didn’t even write in as it’s only 45 mins (or 1.5h as we got a red alert at YYZ), I only paid J as it was part of a TATL and the other 7h was what mattered most.
May 22, 2020, 3:31 pm
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I mean I got a downgrade from a pod to a narrow body J seat YOW YYZ a few years ago. That’s pretty significant but stuff happens, didn’t even write in as it’s only 45 mins (or 1.5h as we got a red alert at YYZ), I only paid J as it was part of a TATL and the other 7h was what mattered most.
This would be PY to Y, where you actually paid for PY, and received Y.
May 22, 2020, 4:19 pm
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I have no idea if they have any parked planes at YOW right now, but those probably couldn't be used at short notice anyway.
May 22, 2020, 5:45 pm
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Now also bookable via AE for just 2500 miles more than Y:
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YUL Montreal Pierre Elliott Trudeau/Dorval QC CA [CYUL] YYZ Toronto Lester B Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ] MON 15 Jun 2020 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Award Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------ AC 481 YUL 06:00 YYZ 07:20 223 0 YS+ AC 493 YUL 07:00 YYZ 08:19 319 0 WS+ AC 403 YUL 08:00 YYZ 09:20 320 0 YS+ AC 415 YUL 14:00 YYZ 15:20 320 0 YS+ AC 419 YUL 16:00 YYZ 17:20 320 0 CS+ YS+ AC 491 YUL 16:45 YYZ 18:04 319 0 WS+
May 23, 2020, 8:20 am
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I really don't understand this. Who is going to pay for PY on these flights? No inflight service, just a bigger seat...while all other flights provide blocked seats in Y...
This would have been a great opportunity for AC to treat Y pax to a nicer ride.
I doubt it'll last long.
This would have been a great opportunity for AC to treat Y pax to a nicer ride.
I doubt it'll last long.
May 23, 2020, 10:08 am
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1) Those who fly business on the Eastern Triangle Corridor between YYZ-YUL & YYZ-YOW.
2) Those that are flying business from Ottawa/Montreal to International destinations only served now ex-YYZ. They don't want a mix of economy and business, so this gives them a sense of upgrade for the short-haul segment.
3) Force those that need to travel at specific peak times to choose the higher priced O class ticket.
4) Stimulate demand/give passengers an option to view a better seat in the hopes that next time they are willing to pay a little more for the comfort they once had.
May 23, 2020, 12:12 pm
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These people would have been in J on mainline, so this is actually a DOWNGRADE for the short-haul segment.