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Old Apr 23, 2020, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
Interesting. I wonder what routes AC will use this on.
Will it actually be AC coordinating this, or is Jazz doing this on their own if AC may have “furloughed” (I can’t think of a better word) Jazz aircraft and they can’t be used under the CPA? I know in the past Jazz has chartered DH1/3 aircraft, and AC was not involved at all (other than the fact the Jazz aircraft was painted in AC livery).
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by YEG USER
Will it actually be AC coordinating this, or is Jazz doing this on their own if AC may have “furloughed” (I can’t think of a better word) Jazz aircraft and they can’t be used under the CPA? I know in the past Jazz has chartered DH1/3 aircraft, and AC was not involved at all (other than the fact the Jazz aircraft was painted in AC livery).
From Jazz's press release " "This innovative opportunity will allow us to redeploy aircraft while contributing to the collective fight against COVID-19 by supporting our customer – Air Canada – and the delivery of essential cargo."

I read that as its going to be coordinated through AC Cargo, but there's nothing stopping Jazz from getting its own charter work, just so long as it does not impact the CPA activities.

Any of the Jazz fleet can be chartered outside the CPA, Jazz use to maintain a few planes for charter use only (2 Dashes and 2 RJs if memory serves me), but when a lot of the oilsands charters dried up, those planes lett the fleet. Charters are now covered by using down time of CPA planes.
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 5:46 pm
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Oops. Somehow I missed the link to the press release.
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by tshirt
wow, and they sent 3 planes? I had no idea they had that many! For what its worth the "China Customs" issue is fixed everything is being processed quickly.
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13 767-200/300s and 8 757-200s so not an insignificant amount of lift
Now up to 15 767's. Looks like they just added two more.
https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/...%20Airways.htm

I presume you jest in terms of China customs processing everything quickly. We had to truck stuff from PVG to PEK because of customs delays in Shanghai.
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 7:52 pm
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 8:32 pm
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 8:49 pm
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by tcook052

Oooops, forgot to add that. Thanks.
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Old Apr 24, 2020, 10:07 am
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I'm curious why the PVG-YYZ cargo flight stopped at NRT. As we've discussed on this thread, the cargo flight is not carrying any more weight than when it used to be filled with self loading freight, and the 777 had the range to manage those flights non-stop .... so if be surprised if it was a range/fuel thing.

And if there's cargo coming in from NRT, I would have expected they would fill the bus to capacity at PVG and send a second bus just to NRT if there's need ....

A stopover just seems odd to me. Any ideas from the smart people here?
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Old Apr 24, 2020, 10:34 am
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It is for crew reasons. It is an immediate turn in PVG. Pilot changes occur in NRT.
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Old Apr 24, 2020, 10:48 am
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Take a look at the floors of the 773. They are taped off to indicate specific boxes/areas to put things. Why? I presume they're tying the nets to where the seat brackets used to go. Weight and balance? Even that seems off because more boxes may not indicate more weight (depends on what they're storing in the boxes)
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Old Apr 24, 2020, 11:04 am
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I like the accordion-like conveyor belt thingy.

Could be more fun to ride than even an emergency slide.
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Old Apr 24, 2020, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by meltedmarshmellow
Take a look at the floors of the 773. They are taped off to indicate specific boxes/areas to put things. Why? I presume they're tying the nets to where the seat brackets used to go. Weight and balance? Even that seems off because more boxes may not indicate more weight (depends on what they're storing in the boxes)
As you guessed it's for weight and balance, in some of the other pictures, they have marked which zone is which. In cargo ops, every box would be weighed in advance. Load Planning then takes the numbers and generates the load plan, telling the ramp agents where to put what. Pilots would then do the final weight and balance check based on what was actually loaded (incase there were changes)
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Old Apr 24, 2020, 2:45 pm
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Old Apr 24, 2020, 4:24 pm
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Tom posted a great report and a series of 29 photos on his FB page, linked form his Twitter post


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