Woman left on Air Canada aircraft after arrival
Jun 24, 2019, 1:06 pm
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My own $0.02 - I've seen a few comments about the groomers and the FAs in this thread; all fair game IMHO.
But I think ultimate responsibility lies with the Captain followed very closely by the SD. I would think that both of them should have independently taken a quick walk through the cabin prior to calling it a day. It's entirely possible that the crew had a long, hard day and just wanted to get home after one last flight. I get it. But the Captain is responsible for everything that happens on board that plane and in my view, that includes deboarding after the flight. I'm sure the unions will have their own perspective on this, but I do think the Captain and the SD should face some consequences for allowing this to happen.
But I think ultimate responsibility lies with the Captain followed very closely by the SD. I would think that both of them should have independently taken a quick walk through the cabin prior to calling it a day. It's entirely possible that the crew had a long, hard day and just wanted to get home after one last flight. I get it. But the Captain is responsible for everything that happens on board that plane and in my view, that includes deboarding after the flight. I'm sure the unions will have their own perspective on this, but I do think the Captain and the SD should face some consequences for allowing this to happen.
Jun 24, 2019, 3:08 pm
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Jun 24, 2019, 3:29 pm
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Would be pretty cool to have been forgotten on the plane.
Try every seat and write a good seat comparison for seat guru.
Check out the galley, see how it all works, what the hidden compartments are.
And of course seat in the Capt's seat and "fly" the plane.
Have an awesome story to tell your friends.
Make light of if with AC and ask for SE 100K as compensation.
So many ways the person could have turned this into a great thing
Try every seat and write a good seat comparison for seat guru.
Check out the galley, see how it all works, what the hidden compartments are.
And of course seat in the Capt's seat and "fly" the plane.
Have an awesome story to tell your friends.
Make light of if with AC and ask for SE 100K as compensation.
So many ways the person could have turned this into a great thing
Jun 25, 2019, 2:13 am
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You can think whatever you want. And you can design in your mind your fantasy airlines policies. I'm sure that AC has some policy, which I'm equally sure wasn't followed. With that said, for a domestic flight to a major AC facility, I'm equally sure they take a rather laissez faire attitude towards such routine activities.
The public will likely never know the results of the investigation unless someone sings.
The public will likely never know the results of the investigation unless someone sings.
Seems this story is being picked up widely...
Jun 25, 2019, 5:35 am
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pipeda request? Sure.
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Jun 25, 2019, 8:16 am
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https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...g-legal-action
Woman abandoned on Air Canada plane considering legal action?
Woman abandoned on Air Canada plane considering legal action?
Jun 25, 2019, 8:39 am
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https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...g-legal-action
Woman abandoned on Air Canada plane considering legal action?
Woman abandoned on Air Canada plane considering legal action?
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Jun 25, 2019, 8:47 am
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This quote in the article would have me concerned that I might need to defend myself against accusations
[Aimer] said it’s possible someone with malicious intent could hide on the plane in this manner...
Jun 25, 2019, 8:50 am
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For me the "malicious intent" comment was more about the serious breach of security that AC caused /enabled, not the actions of the victim.
Jun 25, 2019, 8:59 am
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But in a world of legalism, if the victim is accused of even partial liability (was she drunk or on drugs?) she might then have to defend herself against being held responsible for the costs of such inspection, or even any inadvertent damage it may be claimed she had caused in the cockpit.
I'm just giving another reason for hiring a lawyer than the obvious one.
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Jun 25, 2019, 9:33 am
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Jun 25, 2019, 10:12 am
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If you fell asleep on a bus, would the driver be liable for anything?
If the aircraft had remained parked at a gate with the door open and nothing blocking an egress, would there be a liability issue?
Obviously there's a security issue, but it sounds like this all boils down to "I woke up on a dark airplane", and while I appreciate that can be frightening, I can't really see what damages would be awarded here.
I don't think she's at fault at all, but that doesn't mean a civil suit has any merit.
If the aircraft had remained parked at a gate with the door open and nothing blocking an egress, would there be a liability issue?
Obviously there's a security issue, but it sounds like this all boils down to "I woke up on a dark airplane", and while I appreciate that can be frightening, I can't really see what damages would be awarded here.
I don't think she's at fault at all, but that doesn't mean a civil suit has any merit.
Jun 25, 2019, 10:33 am
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If you fell asleep on a bus, would the driver be liable for anything?
If the aircraft had remained parked at a gate with the door open and nothing blocking an egress, would there be a liability issue?
Obviously there's a security issue, but it sounds like this all boils down to "I woke up on a dark airplane", and while I appreciate that can be frightening, I can't really see what damages would be awarded here.
I don't think she's at fault at all, but that doesn't mean a civil suit has any merit.
If the aircraft had remained parked at a gate with the door open and nothing blocking an egress, would there be a liability issue?
Obviously there's a security issue, but it sounds like this all boils down to "I woke up on a dark airplane", and while I appreciate that can be frightening, I can't really see what damages would be awarded here.
I don't think she's at fault at all, but that doesn't mean a civil suit has any merit.
Clearly AC messed up but the victim must be a heavy sleeper!