Woman left on Air Canada aircraft after arrival
#136
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Having said that, it's being reported here that she did this on purpose and I have no reason beyond my unfounded skepticism to doubt the person saying so. If she really did do this as a PR stunt...then holy hell, unleash the hounds on her.
#137
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Groomers are likely brought onboard before next first flight for that fin (AC1790 at gate D33), after AC employed crew have turned lights on and are present to handle possible emergency egress at gate. Waste of money having groomers wait around for potentially delayed flights to clean a plane that might be rescheduled to not operate for days, and good luck getting crew to babysit cleaners off block time. Ramp staff would have no reason to enter plane, guessing brakes aren't needed assuming ground crew put chocks around landing gear.
My experience boarding planes (with GA permission, not AC) after crew have left is that it is shut down entirely; my memory was that it was boiling hot onboard and terminal lights provided enough light to retrieve items left behind. Crew absolutely didn't have any desire to stick around for some stupid F pax hunting for wallet, phone, etc... that would be the plausible excuse if caught in bridge: "Ooops, I left my <insert embarrassing yet plausible item here> onboard. Please help?"
#138
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I'd just sit on the floor or in the chairs behind the gate monitors (D22 has these), maybe surrounded by wheelchairs and other random gate equipment, wait for crew to leave in a hurry given flight was 31m delayed, GA still at the counter doing closing tasks on terminal possibly chatting with crew. It would be a matter of calmly standing and walk down the bridge. 4 meters down I'm out of line of sight from where the GA might shoulder-check if s/he was at the left terminal. GA follows after I've started farting in J seats, closes plane door, closes bottom of bridge door, pull bridge back for tow, then closes top of bridge door before leaving gate. I don't see any inbound/outbound after at D22. My guess is that the crew departing plane are either supposed to close top of bridge door after leaving, or ensure GA is attentive to the gate door. Honestly, thinking about YYZ D22 it seems like this would be quite easy to pull off. But why?
Groomers are likely brought onboard before next first flight for that fin (AC1790 at gate D33), after AC employed crew have turned lights on and are present to handle possible emergency egress at gate. Waste of money having groomers wait around for potentially delayed flights to clean a plane that might be rescheduled to not operate for days, and good luck getting crew to babysit cleaners off block time. Ramp staff would have no reason to enter plane, guessing brakes aren't needed assuming ground crew put chocks around landing gear.
My experience boarding planes (with GA permission, not AC) after crew have left is that it is shut down entirely; my memory was that it was boiling hot onboard and terminal lights provided enough light to retrieve items left behind. Crew absolutely didn't have any desire to stick around for some stupid F pax hunting for wallet, phone, etc... that would be the plausible excuse if caught in bridge: "Ooops, I left my <insert embarrassing yet plausible item here> onboard. Please help?"
Groomers are likely brought onboard before next first flight for that fin (AC1790 at gate D33), after AC employed crew have turned lights on and are present to handle possible emergency egress at gate. Waste of money having groomers wait around for potentially delayed flights to clean a plane that might be rescheduled to not operate for days, and good luck getting crew to babysit cleaners off block time. Ramp staff would have no reason to enter plane, guessing brakes aren't needed assuming ground crew put chocks around landing gear.
My experience boarding planes (with GA permission, not AC) after crew have left is that it is shut down entirely; my memory was that it was boiling hot onboard and terminal lights provided enough light to retrieve items left behind. Crew absolutely didn't have any desire to stick around for some stupid F pax hunting for wallet, phone, etc... that would be the plausible excuse if caught in bridge: "Ooops, I left my <insert embarrassing yet plausible item here> onboard. Please help?"
Perhaps she forgot something, went back to look for it and fell asleep. That would be more reasonable.
Deliberately trying to be on an aircraft being taken out of service for the night is so far out in left field for a reasonable person to do.
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#144
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Every effort will be mode to not have the facts come out...... Lets look at the players:
- The Airline - They don't want copycats or for the public to think their aircraft are not secure. Image what would happen.
- YYZ - Something is wrong with the design of the airport terminal or their process. They don't want the attention.
- The Individual - She looks bad now there her motives our out. She is going to want to be quite.
The only way this will come out is in court documents.
- The Airline - They don't want copycats or for the public to think their aircraft are not secure. Image what would happen.
- YYZ - Something is wrong with the design of the airport terminal or their process. They don't want the attention.
- The Individual - She looks bad now there her motives our out. She is going to want to be quite.
The only way this will come out is in court documents.
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Mind you, none of this whole sordid tale makes sense.
#148
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Yes, I am grasping at straws. This who thing is just so weird it makes no sense.
It has now been a few days. No new information has come out. We have run our of things to speculate about. Not a good situation. What is even worse is likely no one involved will want any of this to come out, so no court documents to provide insight.
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