Feb 15, 2019, 9:51 pm
Last edit by: YVR72
Overview
Anyone is welcome to update this wiki with new fleet plans from quarterly disclosures, presentations or press releases by AC, or information from other sources (e.g. Planespotters, Airfleets).
Note: Please add your edits to the change log at the bottom.
This spreadsheet contains data on AC's fleet back to 2005, and includes numerous charts that detail the evolution of various types in the fleet from then until the present.
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Air Canada Widebody
Boeing 767-300 (763)
Air Canada Narrowbody
Airbus A321-200 XLR See this thread
Air Canada Rouge Fleet (all narrowbody)
Airbus A321 (321)
Air Canada Express Fleet (all narrowbody regional aircraft with 76 or fewer seats)
Aircraft are operated by Jazz Aviation with the exception of 7 DH4s operated by PAL Airlines in Atlantic Canada.
Embraer 175 (E75)
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Air Canada Cargo
Boeing 767-300F
Sources
Information above is based primarily on the fleet plan in Air Canada's 2023 Q4 MD&A, as of February 16, 2024, with updates based on information from planespotters.net, airfleets.net press releases, and other sources.
Change log
Anyone is welcome to update this wiki with new fleet plans from quarterly disclosures, presentations or press releases by AC, or information from other sources (e.g. Planespotters, Airfleets).
Note: Please add your edits to the change log at the bottom.
This spreadsheet contains data on AC's fleet back to 2005, and includes numerous charts that detail the evolution of various types in the fleet from then until the present.
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Air Canada Widebody
Boeing 767-300 (763)
- Current: --
- Future: --
- Speculation: +2 in 2025 (640 & 641 pax-config'd returned from storage as of May 2024. See this comment about internal announcement)
- Current: 19
- Future: --
- Current: 6
- Future: --
- Current: --
- Future: +18 (Deliveries Q4-25 thru Q1-27)
- Options: +12
- Current: 31
- Future: +1 (2024)
- Current: 8
- Future: --
- Current: 19
- Future: +1 in 2024
Air Canada Narrowbody
Airbus A321-200 XLR See this thread
- Current: --
- Future: +26 (Deliveries 2025 thru 2027)
- Options: +14 (Potential deliveries 2027 thru 2030)
- Current: 16
- Future: --
- Speculation: +1 in 2024 (See this comment)
- Current: 21 (including 4 configured for Jetz)
- Future: +1 in 2024
- Current: 5
- Future: --
- Current: 40
- Future: ~11 (+5 planned deliveries in 2025, +6 leased as stop-gap for 6 parked A220s)
- Options: +10 (for any MAX variant)
- Current: 33
- Future: +27 (2 in 2024, 7 in 2025, 18 on order
- Options: +15
Air Canada Rouge Fleet (all narrowbody)
Airbus A321 (321)
- Current: 17
- Future: --
- Current: 5
- Future: --
- Current: 18
- Future: --
Air Canada Express Fleet (all narrowbody regional aircraft with 76 or fewer seats)
Aircraft are operated by Jazz Aviation with the exception of 7 DH4s operated by PAL Airlines in Atlantic Canada.
Embraer 175 (E75)
- Current: 24
- Future: --
- Current: 35
- Future: --
- Current: 7
- Future: --
- Current: 46 (39 Jazz, 7 PAL)
- Future: --
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Air Canada Cargo
Boeing 767-300F
- Current: 8
- Future: --
Sources
Information above is based primarily on the fleet plan in Air Canada's 2023 Q4 MD&A, as of February 16, 2024, with updates based on information from planespotters.net, airfleets.net press releases, and other sources.
Change log
- yvr72 | May 12, 2024: Reformatted, added a couple hyperlinks, added 763, 7M8 leases, PAL/Jazz specifics, 76F, removed DH3 reference, updates to reflect completed 2024 fleet changes. Note: did not update This spreadsheet
- yvr72 | May 18, 2024: Updated 767 re: internal announcements, and 321 re: rumours of new FIN
Air Canada Master Fleet Changes Thread
May 2, 2024, 2:03 pm
#872
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Debates go on in the real world (at the airlines). Having a front seat at it, I can tell you the 320 is the preferred choice (myself included) having time on both up front and hundreds of hours commuting/DHing in the back.
May 2, 2024, 2:07 pm
#873
Join Date: Aug 2013
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And let's not forget that the fuselage came from the 727, which itself came from the 707. Reuse at its finest.
May 2, 2024, 2:08 pm
#874
Join Date: May 2022
Programs: Employee Travel LOL (and Aeroplan).
Posts: 185
May 2, 2024, 2:08 pm
#875
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,255
May 2, 2024, 2:19 pm
#876
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YOW
Programs: AC P(easant)25K
Posts: 262
Just to be on the record, I'm firmly on the Airbus camp.
May 2, 2024, 3:39 pm
#877
Formerly known as tireman77
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 5,650
Like Honda v VW in the late 80s early 90s.
May 2, 2024, 3:43 pm
#878
Join Date: May 2022
Programs: Employee Travel LOL (and Aeroplan).
Posts: 185
Spent a really cool afternoon with a half dozen Pilots on a porch with some beers and they debated the same thing each one debating the merits of each but stating their prefrences. It's as old as time... well, or at least as old as the Mulroney era.
Like Honda v VW in the late 80s early 90s.
Like Honda v VW in the late 80s early 90s.
Having flown Bombardier, Airbus and Boeing. Airbus is 1, BBD 2, Boeing last.
Politics of the past and current events do not factor into this... just ergonomics, reliability, and modernization do. Everything else is irrational nostalgia/fluff.
May 2, 2024, 3:49 pm
#879
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 23,833
I rarely give my opinion on this platform, mostly just facts from inside the business.
Having flown Bombardier, Airbus and Boeing. Airbus is 1, BBD 2, Boeing last.
Politics of the past and current events do not factor into this... just ergonomics, reliability, and modernization do. Everything else is irrational nostalgia/fluff.
Having flown Bombardier, Airbus and Boeing. Airbus is 1, BBD 2, Boeing last.
Politics of the past and current events do not factor into this... just ergonomics, reliability, and modernization do. Everything else is irrational nostalgia/fluff.
Wide bodies, I find it hard to see much of a difference. Also, depends upon how the specific configuration adopted by the airline. For instance, the current A330 J cabin is clearly worse than the 777 or 787. The previous one was probably better.
Of course, agreed that politics, emotions, national pride and other BS should not enter the picture.
May 2, 2024, 3:53 pm
#880
Join Date: May 2022
Programs: Employee Travel LOL (and Aeroplan).
Posts: 185
I don't believe there is a one size fits all answer. I would agree on the ranking when talking single aisle.
Wide bodies, I find it hard to see much of a difference. Also, depends upon how the specific configuration adopted by the airline. For instance, the current A330 J cabin is clearly worse than the 777 or 787. The previous one was probably better.
Of course, agreed that politics, emotions, national pride and other BS should not enter the picture.
Wide bodies, I find it hard to see much of a difference. Also, depends upon how the specific configuration adopted by the airline. For instance, the current A330 J cabin is clearly worse than the 777 or 787. The previous one was probably better.
Of course, agreed that politics, emotions, national pride and other BS should not enter the picture.
, there's a clear better choice from the pilot's end of it (excluding the 787 and 767).Yeah I agree the national pride thing is poppycock
May 2, 2024, 3:53 pm
#881
Formerly known as tireman77
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 5,650
I rarely give my opinion on this platform, mostly just facts from inside the business.
Having flown Bombardier, Airbus and Boeing. Airbus is 1, BBD 2, Boeing last.
Politics of the past and current events do not factor into this... just ergonomics, reliability, and modernization do. Everything else is irrational nostalgia/fluff.
Having flown Bombardier, Airbus and Boeing. Airbus is 1, BBD 2, Boeing last.
Politics of the past and current events do not factor into this... just ergonomics, reliability, and modernization do. Everything else is irrational nostalgia/fluff.
From what I gather at the core Boeing and Airbus simply have radically different philosophies behind their workings and people tend to fall into one camp or the other. And yes, even the Boeing camp are jealous of the tray table and space the A320 offers.
For me flying is simply a privilege to live in a time and place where it's accessible for a portion of the population.
May 2, 2024, 3:56 pm
#882
Join Date: May 2022
Programs: Employee Travel LOL (and Aeroplan).
Posts: 185
Understood and agreed. All of this will blow over in less time than we think.
From what I gather at the core Boeing and Airbus simply have radically different philosophies behind their workings and people tend to fall into one camp or the other. And yes, even the Boeing camp are jealous of the tray table and space the A320 offers.
For me flying is simply a privilege to live in a time and place where it's accessible for a portion of the population.
From what I gather at the core Boeing and Airbus simply have radically different philosophies behind their workings and people tend to fall into one camp or the other. And yes, even the Boeing camp are jealous of the tray table and space the A320 offers.
For me flying is simply a privilege to live in a time and place where it's accessible for a portion of the population.
May 2, 2024, 5:56 pm
#883
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: *G^2, Bonvoyed, NEXUS
Posts: 3,531
I've never met a Flight Attendant from any airline that has both 737s and A320s that has preferred working the 737 over the A320. All have always preferred the A320 series. 737 complaints are cramped galleys and having to literally get down on their hands and knees to arm the doors because of the 1960s era door design where the slides are still basically an afterthought.
May 2, 2024, 10:10 pm
#885
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Calgary,AB
Programs: Aeroplan 25K , UA ,WJ, HA, AMEX AP Reserve
Posts: 1,293
Ive flown that beast 7 hours to & from OGG 4 times now. The only row I will sit
in is 20 (Exit row) I hate it with a passion. You know- the Rouge 767's werent all that bad
to Hawaii........
in is 20 (Exit row) I hate it with a passion. You know- the Rouge 767's werent all that bad
to Hawaii........