Air Canada Master Fleet Changes Thread
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Feb 15, 19, 10:48 pm
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Air Canada Master Fleet Changes Thread
Plenty of fleet developments going on at AC these days. We have a number of threads dedicated to individual aircraft type changes, but many airline forums on FT also have a master thread (or a couple) to keep track of type threads and discuss broader issues relating to fleet changes. I thought I'd start one here.
I hope this is useful for people as a quick reference to upcoming fleet changes as well as a place to discuss them.
The intention is to keep a wiki up to date with current fleet stats and plans, along with links to the individual threads with more in-depth discussion of individual types. The idea is to keep the wiki fairly up to date, so, for instance, I've not included links to the thread on the extra 77Ws that AC purchased in 2013 and were delivered in 2013-14.
I hope this is useful for people as a quick reference to upcoming fleet changes as well as a place to discuss them.
The intention is to keep a wiki up to date with current fleet stats and plans, along with links to the individual threads with more in-depth discussion of individual types. The idea is to keep the wiki fairly up to date, so, for instance, I've not included links to the thread on the extra 77Ws that AC purchased in 2013 and were delivered in 2013-14.
Feb 15, 19, 10:49 pm
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To kick off the discussion... One interesting open item is what is AC going to do with the 319s and 321s that are currently projected to be at mainline through 2021. They have a bunch more 7M8s on order and the ability to convert those to 7M7s or 7M9s, but no sign of doing so thus far. So do the 319s and 321s have a long-term future at mainline, or will they end up at rouge soon enough?
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Feb 15, 19, 10:55 pm
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Feb 16, 19, 7:53 am
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Fantastic wiki and thread. Well done.
At quick glance it doesn't seem there is much of a net change in pax capacity across the fleet in coming years which suggests either that AC feels they have saturated the various markets, or they fly many aircraft not full.
I am disappointed in the change from A32Xs to 7M8s. It isn't new news of course but this thread serves as the reminder.
I actually have never liked A32X aircraft owing almost entirely to the engines. The sound they make on takeoff until cruising altitude is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Having said that, a few flights aboard the 7M8 have served as a reminder to be careful what one wishes for.
At quick glance it doesn't seem there is much of a net change in pax capacity across the fleet in coming years which suggests either that AC feels they have saturated the various markets, or they fly many aircraft not full.
I am disappointed in the change from A32Xs to 7M8s. It isn't new news of course but this thread serves as the reminder.
I actually have never liked A32X aircraft owing almost entirely to the engines. The sound they make on takeoff until cruising altitude is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Having said that, a few flights aboard the 7M8 have served as a reminder to be careful what one wishes for.
Feb 16, 19, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by WaytoomuchEurope
Fantastic wiki and thread. Well done.
At quick glance it doesn't seem there is much of a net change in pax capacity across the fleet in coming years which suggests either that AC feels they have saturated the various markets, or they fly many aircraft not full.
I am disappointed in the change from A32Xs to 7M8s. It isn't new news of course but this thread serves as the reminder.
I actually have never liked A32X aircraft owing almost entirely to the engines. The sound they make on takeoff until cruising altitude is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Having said that, a few flights aboard the 7M8 have served as a reminder to be careful what one wishes for.
At quick glance it doesn't seem there is much of a net change in pax capacity across the fleet in coming years which suggests either that AC feels they have saturated the various markets, or they fly many aircraft not full.
I am disappointed in the change from A32Xs to 7M8s. It isn't new news of course but this thread serves as the reminder.
I actually have never liked A32X aircraft owing almost entirely to the engines. The sound they make on takeoff until cruising altitude is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Having said that, a few flights aboard the 7M8 have served as a reminder to be careful what one wishes for.
Feb 16, 19, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by WildcatYXU
AC's A32X fleet is sort of sharing the engines with the wast majority of the worldwide 737 fleet. The buzz saw sound is definitely present on 737's too. So not too much choice there. And right now I can't recall the sound inside of a V2500 powered A321. It's almost 3 years since I flew one.
Feb 16, 19, 11:26 am
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Until I read the Wiki I didn't know that AC Express operators are getting rid of 9 CRJ, 8 Q400, and 6 DH3. I knew that the 15 DH1 were on the way out, but the others came as a surprise to me. Some of these will be offset by 14 new CR9, but overall there is quite a decrease in birds for AC Express.
Feb 16, 19, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by smallmj
Until I read the Wiki I didn't know that AC Express operators are getting rid of 9 CRJ, 8 Q400, and 6 DH3. I knew that the 15 DH1 were on the way out, but the others came as a surprise to me. Some of these will be offset by 14 new CR9, but overall there is quite a decrease in birds for AC Express.
Feb 16, 19, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by WildcatYXU
Airfleets.net is showing the 7M8 fleet as 20 strong. According to them, MSN7358, C-GEHI has been delivered n January 31. MSN7383, C-GHEV has been delivered on Feb. 1.
Originally Posted by YXUFlyboy
Thanks Adam. Anyone else scared by the notion that the 7M8 fleet will be bigger than all mainline A32X narrowbodies combined in 2020? They will be everywhere.
Originally Posted by YXUFlyboy
Is the aircraft code for A220-300 223 or CS3?
