Introducing Air Canada Basic Economy
#136
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: *G^2, Bonvoyed, NEXUS
Posts: 3,516
Introducing TATL Economy Basic
In a communication sent to travel agents/providers, AC will be introducing Economy Basic on select TATL routes effective 5 June 2018
Summary:
- Being introduced on select TATL markets as of 5 June 2018, along with UA and LH Group (A++ JV)
- No refunds, no changes (including no same day changes), no upgrades (eUp, LMU, or bid-up)
- Seat reservation for a fee (elite seat benefits apply)
- No baggage allowance - first bag is 50EUR / 60USD / 60CAD / 60CHF / 45GBP or equivalent. *G gets 1st bag free
- 25% AQM/Aeroplan accrual
- Zone 6 boarding for non-status pax
- Fare basis codes ending with -LGT
Summary:
- Being introduced on select TATL markets as of 5 June 2018, along with UA and LH Group (A++ JV)
- No refunds, no changes (including no same day changes), no upgrades (eUp, LMU, or bid-up)
- Seat reservation for a fee (elite seat benefits apply)
- No baggage allowance - first bag is 50EUR / 60USD / 60CAD / 60CHF / 45GBP or equivalent. *G gets 1st bag free
- 25% AQM/Aeroplan accrual
- Zone 6 boarding for non-status pax
- Fare basis codes ending with -LGT
Last edited by D582; May 29, 2018 at 5:59 pm
#137
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Quebec and Ontario, Canada
Programs: AC*E50, SPG/Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,917
In a communication sent to travel agents/providers, AC will be introducing Economy Basic on select TATL routes effective 5 June 2018
Summary:
- Being introduced on select TATL markets as of 5 June 2018, along with UA and LH Group (A++ JV)
- No refunds, no changes (including no same day changes), no upgrades (eUp, LMU, or bid-up)
- Seat reservation for a fee
- No baggage allowance - first bag is 50EUR / 60USD / 60CAD / 60CHF / 45GBP or equivalent. *G gets 1st bag free
- 25% AQM/Aeroplan accrual
- Zone 6 boarding
- Fare basis codes ending with -LGT
Summary:
- Being introduced on select TATL markets as of 5 June 2018, along with UA and LH Group (A++ JV)
- No refunds, no changes (including no same day changes), no upgrades (eUp, LMU, or bid-up)
- Seat reservation for a fee
- No baggage allowance - first bag is 50EUR / 60USD / 60CAD / 60CHF / 45GBP or equivalent. *G gets 1st bag free
- 25% AQM/Aeroplan accrual
- Zone 6 boarding
- Fare basis codes ending with -LGT
SE get preferred seat or not
SE get zone 1 boarding
E get zone 2 boarding
SE / E get more than one bag (3 bags ?)
If 1 segment still get 1 AQS
If you get AQD as well
If the answer is yes for all of the above then it may be worth it...
#138
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Canada
Programs: AC E50k, A3*G, UA*S, MR Titanium, HHonors Gold, Carlson Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 3,669
In a communication sent to travel agents/providers, AC will be introducing Economy Basic on select TATL routes effective 5 June 2018
Summary:
- Being introduced on select TATL markets as of 5 June 2018, along with UA and LH Group (A++ JV)
- No refunds, no changes (including no same day changes), no upgrades (eUp, LMU, or bid-up)
- Seat reservation for a fee
- No baggage allowance - first bag is 50EUR / 60USD / 60CAD / 60CHF / 45GBP or equivalent. *G gets 1st bag free
- 25% AQM/Aeroplan accrual
- Zone 6 boarding
- Fare basis codes ending with -LGT
Summary:
- Being introduced on select TATL markets as of 5 June 2018, along with UA and LH Group (A++ JV)
- No refunds, no changes (including no same day changes), no upgrades (eUp, LMU, or bid-up)
- Seat reservation for a fee
- No baggage allowance - first bag is 50EUR / 60USD / 60CAD / 60CHF / 45GBP or equivalent. *G gets 1st bag free
- 25% AQM/Aeroplan accrual
- Zone 6 boarding
- Fare basis codes ending with -LGT
#139
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: *G^2, Bonvoyed, NEXUS
Posts: 3,516
Fares will get AQD since they get AQM. Should also get 1 AQS, but that is not clear.
#140
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
In a communication sent to travel agents/providers, AC will be introducing Economy Basic on select TATL routes effective 5 June 2018
Summary:
- Being introduced on select TATL markets as of 5 June 2018, along with UA and LH Group (A++ JV)
- No refunds, no changes (including no same day changes), no upgrades (eUp, LMU, or bid-up)
- Seat reservation for a fee (elite seat benefits apply)
- No baggage allowance - first bag is 50EUR / 60USD / 60CAD / 60CHF / 45GBP or equivalent. *G gets 1st bag free
- 25% AQM/Aeroplan accrual
- Zone 6 boarding for non-status pax
- Fare basis codes ending with -LGT
Summary:
- Being introduced on select TATL markets as of 5 June 2018, along with UA and LH Group (A++ JV)
- No refunds, no changes (including no same day changes), no upgrades (eUp, LMU, or bid-up)
- Seat reservation for a fee (elite seat benefits apply)
- No baggage allowance - first bag is 50EUR / 60USD / 60CAD / 60CHF / 45GBP or equivalent. *G gets 1st bag free
- 25% AQM/Aeroplan accrual
- Zone 6 boarding for non-status pax
- Fare basis codes ending with -LGT
So, those Zone 6 signs are coming back? But only for these select TATL routes as it’s still Zone 5 within NA... Or did AC marketing screw up (again)?
Can one still select a seat for free at OLCI? Or is it assigned and no choice like others (DL does this I think).
#141
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: AC Million Miler & long time SE; StarwoodPlat for 10+ yrs & lifetime Gold; Hilton Honours Diamond; IC Ambassador; AMEX Plat;Avis Presidents Club; Airmiles GOLD; and just about everything else!
Programs: aeroplan & 25+year loyalty
Posts: 3,822
SE benefits in new Economy fare?
I am thinking of booking a flight in the new Economy fare, the one that only gives 25% AE within Canada.
Question as a SE can I still book a preferred seat at no charge? The website implies I will have to pay. The luggage benefits are clear but not the seating.
Thanks
Question as a SE can I still book a preferred seat at no charge? The website implies I will have to pay. The luggage benefits are clear but not the seating.
Thanks
#144
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
Programs: AC A50K
Posts: 339
devalued to the point that i no longer stick with AC
I used to accrue miles and would stick with AC on every flight, and star alliance if AC didn't go there. no more. There is no incentive when AC makes it so hard to accrue miles on anything but the highest fares. Using EUPs became so hard/expensive that it was not worth the gamble. now i book business on whatever airline is the most logical. I am off to Egypt next month, on BA, based on their better connection, and not blindly following my aeroplan miles. Congratulations AC on racing to the bottom.
#145
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 21
OTA vs AC.com Economy Standard Fare checked baggage
Purchased a TATL fare via FlightHub on AC. YYZ-LHR r/t.
FlightHub showed Economy Basic and Economy Standard options. AC.com also showed Economy Basic and Economy Standard options at the same price. AC.com also indicated that the Economy Standard fare would include 1 checked bag. I greedily booked the FlightHub Economy Standard fare assuming 1 checked bag would be included, in order to avail of some cashback through topcashback . Instead, it went through as '-LGT' suffixed Economy Basic fare....even though I paid for the 'upgraded' Economy Standard price.
A closer inspection of FlightHub's site does indeed show that their Economy Basic and Economy Standard fares DO NOT include 1 free checked bag. On AC.com, an Economy Standard fare includes 1 checked bag (for TATL at least...haven't looked into the others). Is AC selling tickets via OTAs with 'different' Economy Standard conditions than what they sell directly (ie without and with a checked bag)?
From FlightHub:
Economy Basic: - Checked bags for a fee - No flight changes
Economy Standard: - Checked bags for a fee - Flight changes for a fee - Up to 50% Aeroplan Miles
From AC.com:
Economy Basic: - Checked bags for a fee - No flight changes
Economy Standard: - 1st checked bag free - changes for a fee - Up to 50% Aeroplan Miles
FlightHub showed Economy Basic and Economy Standard options. AC.com also showed Economy Basic and Economy Standard options at the same price. AC.com also indicated that the Economy Standard fare would include 1 checked bag. I greedily booked the FlightHub Economy Standard fare assuming 1 checked bag would be included, in order to avail of some cashback through topcashback . Instead, it went through as '-LGT' suffixed Economy Basic fare....even though I paid for the 'upgraded' Economy Standard price.
A closer inspection of FlightHub's site does indeed show that their Economy Basic and Economy Standard fares DO NOT include 1 free checked bag. On AC.com, an Economy Standard fare includes 1 checked bag (for TATL at least...haven't looked into the others). Is AC selling tickets via OTAs with 'different' Economy Standard conditions than what they sell directly (ie without and with a checked bag)?
From FlightHub:
Economy Basic: - Checked bags for a fee - No flight changes
Economy Standard: - Checked bags for a fee - Flight changes for a fee - Up to 50% Aeroplan Miles
From AC.com:
Economy Basic: - Checked bags for a fee - No flight changes
Economy Standard: - 1st checked bag free - changes for a fee - Up to 50% Aeroplan Miles
#146
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE MM, Bonvoy Plat, Hilton G,Nexus, Amex MR Plat,IHG Plat
Posts: 4,428
Purchased a TATL fare via FlightHub on AC. YYZ-LHR r/t.
FlightHub showed Economy Basic and Economy Standard options. AC.com also showed Economy Basic and Economy Standard options at the same price. AC.com also indicated that the Economy Standard fare would include 1 checked bag. I greedily booked the FlightHub Economy Standard fare assuming 1 checked bag would be included, in order to avail of some cashback through topcashback . Instead, it went through as '-LGT' suffixed Economy Basic fare....even though I paid for the 'upgraded' Economy Standard price.
A closer inspection of FlightHub's site does indeed show that their Economy Basic and Economy Standard fares DO NOT include 1 free checked bag. On AC.com, an Economy Standard fare includes 1 checked bag (for TATL at least...haven't looked into the others). Is AC selling tickets via OTAs with 'different' Economy Standard conditions than what they sell directly (ie without and with a checked bag)?
From FlightHub:
Economy Basic: - Checked bags for a fee - No flight changes
Economy Standard: - Checked bags for a fee - Flight changes for a fee - Up to 50% Aeroplan Miles
From AC.com:
Economy Basic: - Checked bags for a fee - No flight changes
Economy Standard: - 1st checked bag free - changes for a fee - Up to 50% Aeroplan Miles
FlightHub showed Economy Basic and Economy Standard options. AC.com also showed Economy Basic and Economy Standard options at the same price. AC.com also indicated that the Economy Standard fare would include 1 checked bag. I greedily booked the FlightHub Economy Standard fare assuming 1 checked bag would be included, in order to avail of some cashback through topcashback . Instead, it went through as '-LGT' suffixed Economy Basic fare....even though I paid for the 'upgraded' Economy Standard price.
A closer inspection of FlightHub's site does indeed show that their Economy Basic and Economy Standard fares DO NOT include 1 free checked bag. On AC.com, an Economy Standard fare includes 1 checked bag (for TATL at least...haven't looked into the others). Is AC selling tickets via OTAs with 'different' Economy Standard conditions than what they sell directly (ie without and with a checked bag)?
From FlightHub:
Economy Basic: - Checked bags for a fee - No flight changes
Economy Standard: - Checked bags for a fee - Flight changes for a fee - Up to 50% Aeroplan Miles
From AC.com:
Economy Basic: - Checked bags for a fee - No flight changes
Economy Standard: - 1st checked bag free - changes for a fee - Up to 50% Aeroplan Miles
#147
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 21
unbelievable: there were 6 different fares on FlightHub priced according to the following categories (showing the outbound pricing only below)
- Basic $357
- Standard $382
- Flex $634
- Latitude $1,819
- Premium (flex) $1,877
- Business (flex) $6,216
#148
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 23,804
Were the prices very different at aircanada.com?
#149
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 21
The pricing on AC.com is the same.
Other OTAs are showing pricing that is $50 higher than AC.com and FlightHub (the OTA I booked with). Must be some weird inventory thing going on
Anyway, FlightHub has graciously agreed to only charge me $25 per pax to cancel the booking. They are laying the blame at Air Canada's feet for not populating the fares properly in the GDS. So I'll eat the fees and just go and book on AC.com just like AC wanted me to in the first place.
EDIT: Just rebooked on AC.com. Same choices (economy standard both ways) and same price as the original OTA. Manage my booking now correctly shows that I booked what I purchased (economy standard) and that the 1st bag is complimentary both ways.
Last edited by axIguy; Aug 21, 2018 at 9:53 pm
#150
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 296
Anyway, FlightHub has graciously agreed to only charge me $25 per pax to cancel the booking. They are laying the blame at Air Canada's feet for not populating the fares properly in the GDS. So I'll eat the fees and just go and book on AC.com just like AC wanted me to in the first place.
Glad you were able to sort it out with them.