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aircanada_loyal Feb 20, 18 9:11 am

Introducing Air Canada Basic Economy
 
This cannot be real, https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...in-canada.html I don't like it one bit.

trek604 Feb 20, 18 9:13 am

No AQM and no standby/changes at all. Lol forget that.

jc94 Feb 20, 18 9:15 am


Originally Posted by aircanada_loyal (Post 29438180)
This cannot be real, https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...in-canada.html I don't like it one bit.

Ah so itís begun, 0% AQM and presumably no segment count either. Higher price for seat selection and no change of SDC even for a cost.

Seems to maintain same prices for baggage and I donít see mention of carry on restrictions ala UA though.

Iím going to assume this also blocks any chance of an eUp too. Presumably there is a press release or did AC IT his the release button in error (again).

jasdou Feb 20, 18 9:17 am

Well, I hate to say it, but I called it.

Will AC follow UA's lead and introduce Basic Economy?

pewpew Feb 20, 18 9:21 am

Looooool

The interesting thing is that if they introduce this as a branded fare (K...BE, M....BE) they're incentivizing frequent flyers moving away from AP or whatever loyalty program will exist in 2020. UA doesn't care if you have M FL/TG. Both are credited equally.

And from what I can tell, if I fly 1-2 times a year, what's the difference between BE, TG, and FL other than price? This is just an excuse for AC to charge more and deliver less.

But I'm happy to be proven wrong

jc94 Feb 20, 18 9:24 am

Zone 6 boarding?

trek604 Feb 20, 18 9:27 am

At least you can pay to select a seat... unlike UA.

But who am I kidding, the people who buy these wouldn't pay anyways and would just complain that they're left with the middle seat between two land-whales. LOL

sz549 Feb 20, 18 9:29 am

Ughs. No AQM means no AQS, correct? My 60+ "lowest bookable fare" annual flights are about to become much more unpleasant. :(

Plumber Feb 20, 18 9:30 am

My guess is all fares will go up over the short term and Basic Economy will end up being charged at the current Tango rates.

Ancillary fees generated $1B in revenue last year, so looks like they are looking to increase that number.

Could be ok for the not-frequent traveler, though I believe they will end up just paying the same as current Tango but get less included.

Just more confusion for the masses, especially with the recent branded fare changes.

InTheAirGuy Feb 20, 18 9:33 am


Originally Posted by aircanada_loyal (Post 29438180)
This cannot be real, https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...in-canada.html I don't like it one bit.

Stupid fares for stupid people. Some will buy it, and then realize they will spend more for luggage, seat selection, etc.

Seriously. You should have to be able to pass an IQ test to fly.

pewpew Feb 20, 18 9:35 am


Originally Posted by InTheAirGuy (Post 29438260)
Stupid fares for by stupid people.

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Seriously. You should not have to be able to pass an IQ test to fly.

FTFY

Yul_voyager Feb 20, 18 9:35 am

No upgrade at all as well
Details are here
https://www.aircanada.com/us/en/aco/...omy-basic.html

jc94 Feb 20, 18 9:40 am


Originally Posted by Plumber (Post 29438254)
My guess is all fares will go up over the short term and Basic Economy will end up being charged at the current Tango rates.

Ancillary fees generated $1B in revenue last year, so looks like they are looking to increase that number.

Could be ok for the not-frequent traveler, though I believe they will end up just paying the same as current Tango but get less included.

Just more confusion for the masses, especially with the recent branded fare changes.

I canít see any fares on AC yet (or a press release) but am 99% sure than my $185 YYZ ORD Tango flight will become $185 (or more) for EB and significantly more for Tango and at the cost of Flex I may as well buy P.

Or I can spend $204 on taxes with AP. Or I can go AA and pay $35 on Avios. In J.

Havenít been to T3 since 2015. I donít see myself darkening T1s door more than once in 2018.

jc94 Feb 20, 18 9:42 am


Originally Posted by Yul_voyager (Post 29438270)
No upgrade at all as well
Details are here
https://www.aircanada.com/us/en/aco/...omy-basic.html

Thanks for the release details. Waiting for CBC to pick it up. I would like your post but I canít like something containing details about no ďAccessĒ to upgrades. Not that paying from Tango has ever appealed to me.

ChrisA330 Feb 20, 18 9:42 am


Originally Posted by jc94 (Post 29438291)


I can’t see any fares on AC yet (or a press release) but am 99% sure than my $185 YYZ ORD Tango flight will become $185 (or more) for EB and significantly more for Tango and at the cost of Flex I may as well buy P.

Or I can spend $204 on taxes with AP. Or I can go AA and pay $35 on Avios. In J.

Haven’t been to T3 since 2015. I don’t see myself darkening T1s door more than once in 2018.

For now you're safe. "Now available on select routes and flights within Canada"

My guess is these fares will be only on Swoop/New Leaf Flair routes.


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