AC ignores multiple SFO ATC go around orders Oct22
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AC ignores multiple SFO ATC go around orders Oct22
from nickflightz at airliners.net
http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1376943
ACA781 was on final at SFO when the tower instructed him to go around at least 5 times and they still landed.
Audio from tower:
https://soundcloud.com/user-771239359/oct-23-2017-0400z
from http://avherald.com/h?article=4b016414&opt=1
As result tower instructed "Air Canada seven eighty one, go around", silence for 2 seconds, tower repeated ""Air Canada seven eighty one, go around", again silence. In total the tower transmitted 5 instructions "Air Canada seven eighty one, go around", however did not receive any response, the aircraft continued the landing.
They really aren't making a good case for themselves at SFO.
http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1376943
ACA781 was on final at SFO when the tower instructed him to go around at least 5 times and they still landed.
Audio from tower:
https://soundcloud.com/user-771239359/oct-23-2017-0400z
from http://avherald.com/h?article=4b016414&opt=1
As result tower instructed "Air Canada seven eighty one, go around", silence for 2 seconds, tower repeated ""Air Canada seven eighty one, go around", again silence. In total the tower transmitted 5 instructions "Air Canada seven eighty one, go around", however did not receive any response, the aircraft continued the landing.
They really aren't making a good case for themselves at SFO.
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from http://avherald.com/h?article=4b016414&opt=1
As result tower instructed "Air Canada seven eighty one, go around", silence for 2 seconds, tower repeated ""Air Canada seven eighty one, go around", again silence. In total the tower transmitted 5 instructions "Air Canada seven eighty one, go around", however did not receive any response, the aircraft continued the landing.
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As the plane got closer to landing, a tower supervisor used a red light gun to alert the crew to abort the landing. A flashing light gun is “standard protocol” when an air crew is not responding to radio instructions, (FAA spokesman) Gregor said.
However, despite all those attempts to abort the landing, the Air Canada plane still landed on Runway 28R at 9:26 p.m., Gregor said.
However, despite all those attempts to abort the landing, the Air Canada plane still landed on Runway 28R at 9:26 p.m., Gregor said.
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Probably just a coincidence, but another issue with an ACA flight into SFO in the evening originating in an Eastern time zone.
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What kind of "update" are you looking for?
Here's something to read
https://www.bangaloreaviation.com/20...da-flight.html
Additional "perspective" from some pilots and ATC guys here. Read what they have to say about flying in India.
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/6...clearance.html
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I just watched at 6:30 pm ABC World News Tonight with David Muir and there was a segment on this...
http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wire...probe-50681750
http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wire...probe-50681750
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I am virtually certain that Air Canada (again) allowed the plane to fly the next day and "accidently" overwrote the CVR. So we will never hear it.