Air Canada treats Star Alliance Gold Member unfairly
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To canadiancow's point - asking isn't the problem. It is selectively asking, and using a statement instead of asking. Stating "this line is for business class only" implies that the agent thinks you're not travelling in business class or you are not entitled to the privileges of that line.
If they asked everyone entering the line, no problem with that.
If they asked everyone entering the line, no problem with that.
Even a statement wouldn't be horrible. It's when there's a huge condescending emphasis added that it gets ridiculous.
AC cannot allow minors traveling alone (trying very hard to avoid the UM phrase) into the MLL. Fine.
But they do not need to be rude. And I totally believe that they were.
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I can't even convey, in words, the tone used.
Even a statement wouldn't be horrible. It's when there's a huge condescending emphasis added that it gets ridiculous.
AC cannot allow minors traveling alone (trying very hard to avoid the UM phrase) into the MLL. Fine.
But they do not need to be rude. And I totally believe that they were.
Even a statement wouldn't be horrible. It's when there's a huge condescending emphasis added that it gets ridiculous.
AC cannot allow minors traveling alone (trying very hard to avoid the UM phrase) into the MLL. Fine.
But they do not need to be rude. And I totally believe that they were.
These people really shouldn't be in the customer service business. I figure its about 20-25% of the employees in AC are like this.
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I can't even convey, in words, the tone used.
Even a statement wouldn't be horrible. It's when there's a huge condescending emphasis added that it gets ridiculous.
AC cannot allow minors traveling alone (trying very hard to avoid the UM phrase) into the MLL. Fine.
But they do not need to be rude. And I totally believe that they were.
Even a statement wouldn't be horrible. It's when there's a huge condescending emphasis added that it gets ridiculous.
AC cannot allow minors traveling alone (trying very hard to avoid the UM phrase) into the MLL. Fine.
But they do not need to be rude. And I totally believe that they were.
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Sounds like we've achieved bizarro world........SE's flying around without the SE baggage tag. On the other hand we have guys who were Super Elite back in 2003 who still have the tag affixed with that old tag-attacher thingee that all weathered and yellowed.
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Umm...you do realize you're on FlyerTalk?! Ask yourself what the main point of this website is
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How about the walk of shame for scammers. Once you get to the front of the line if you aren't super elite they send you to the proper line and then yell "Next!"
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OP - first of all, welcome to FT!
To your point about being told that the economy check-in line is over there... Agents have never been that rude to me, although I don't doubt your story. In fact, over-entitled passengers have been worse. I politely tell the agents that I'm *G/Elite/Business Class/etc. and they let me go on without any trouble. Sometimes, they'll even offer up an apology. I've seen them mostly ask your status/class of travel before you get in line, which is fine with me since they are enforcing the priority line.
As for the nosy over entitled passengers, I thank them for letting me know that I'm in the correct line.
I find age-ism and class-ism a lot worse in Asia. You definitely need to be dressed or look the part in order to stand in the first/business/*G lines. I've had agents question me and not an older person, even if the older person is the one actually in the wrong line.
To your point about being told that the economy check-in line is over there... Agents have never been that rude to me, although I don't doubt your story. In fact, over-entitled passengers have been worse. I politely tell the agents that I'm *G/Elite/Business Class/etc. and they let me go on without any trouble. Sometimes, they'll even offer up an apology. I've seen them mostly ask your status/class of travel before you get in line, which is fine with me since they are enforcing the priority line.
As for the nosy over entitled passengers, I thank them for letting me know that I'm in the correct line.
I find age-ism and class-ism a lot worse in Asia. You definitely need to be dressed or look the part in order to stand in the first/business/*G lines. I've had agents question me and not an older person, even if the older person is the one actually in the wrong line.
You are Asian, so if you don't dress as well you won't be treated as well as a white person (if you dress well, you still may not be though).
There is not so much an attitude of service here, and good service is something you "earn" almost. You will find many people here who say they have consistently good service, but they almost grovel. I don't know if you noticed, but sitting in the premium classes here passengers are very respectful, especially the frequent fliers, to the flight attendants.
But hey, you don't have any options flying in Canada, so what do you say.
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I respectfully disagree. Humans have a wide range of behaviours and emotions that they use to get what they want. Some use pity, some use forcefulness, some use bribery (can be emotional bribery or the other kind) and so on.
While I find a smile and showing appreciation to people in the service industry can net better results, I think it is important while flying. The last thing you need is a cranky cabin crew when you have to spend many hours with them in that metal tube. Nowhere to hide.
I will also admit that sometimes, all the possible social graces don't work - the smiling and thanking parts, and you are just stuck with nasty, cranky crew and that can be on AC or on any other airline.
I can also tell you that I've received thank you notes from crew that I've flown with. I'm hardly a wallflower, and if I'm annoyed you'll know, but I try to remember where I am and that's important when bad service or another issue come up.
Anyway, this thread is also repeating many of the point bought up in other threads.
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You will find that valuable personnel when traveling to risky destinations are told by their internal security departments/outside consultants to remove tags, expensive bling, watches etc. as well. No expensive flashy clothes, shoes, hand bags or luggage either.
Appreciably travel to Regina or Kamloops isn't high risk. However, AC provides flights for connections to places like Caracas, Lagos, J'burg, Phnom Penh etc.
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I do not travel with my *A Gold tag for security reasons. I do not wish to draw attention to myself. That also extends to clothing, and e gadgets.
You will find that valuable personnel when traveling to risky destinations are told by their internal security departments/outside consultants to remove tags, expensive bling, watches etc. as well. No expensive flashy clothes, shoes, hand bags or luggage either.
Appreciably travel to Regina or Kamloops isn't high risk. However, AC provides flights for connections to places like Caracas, Lagos, J'burg, Phnom Penh etc.
You will find that valuable personnel when traveling to risky destinations are told by their internal security departments/outside consultants to remove tags, expensive bling, watches etc. as well. No expensive flashy clothes, shoes, hand bags or luggage either.
Appreciably travel to Regina or Kamloops isn't high risk. However, AC provides flights for connections to places like Caracas, Lagos, J'burg, Phnom Penh etc.
My work trips to some SE Asian cities involve just jeans, t-shirt and a beat up knapsack from 2012. I go for the backpacker look. Always fun when I end up in a meeting room with people in suits and ties. I still don't understand suits and ties in S.E. Asia.
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I do not travel with my *A Gold tag for security reasons. I do not wish to draw attention to myself. That also extends to clothing, and e gadgets.
You will find that valuable personnel when traveling to risky destinations are told by their internal security departments/outside consultants to remove tags, expensive bling, watches etc. as well. No expensive flashy clothes, shoes, hand bags or luggage either.
Appreciably travel to Regina or Kamloops isn't high risk. However, AC provides flights for connections to places like Caracas, Lagos, J'burg, Phnom Penh etc.
You will find that valuable personnel when traveling to risky destinations are told by their internal security departments/outside consultants to remove tags, expensive bling, watches etc. as well. No expensive flashy clothes, shoes, hand bags or luggage either.
Appreciably travel to Regina or Kamloops isn't high risk. However, AC provides flights for connections to places like Caracas, Lagos, J'burg, Phnom Penh etc.