May 11, 2017, 3:09 pm
Last edit by: yyznomad
Such that it is actually searchable text - one of the important changes to the Aeroplan program in 2019 for Super Elites:
New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.
Read the below screenshots for the rest.
July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15¤tLanguage=en
New chart with fees in this post
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html
Older news releases from 2017 below
Air Canada "What You Need to Know"
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html
Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135
Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09
Aeroplan & Air Canada update
We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311
From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do
Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/
August 11 2017
"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."
https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096
"Five things you need to know about your miles"
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
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New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.
Read the below screenshots for the rest.
July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15¤tLanguage=en
New chart with fees in this post
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html
Older news releases from 2017 below
Air Canada "What You Need to Know"
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html
Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135
Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09
Aeroplan & Air Canada update
We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311
From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do
Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/
August 11 2017
"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."
https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096
"Five things you need to know about your miles"
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
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Air Canada to Launch Its Own Loyalty Program in 2020
May 11, 2017, 5:51 am
#16
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YYC
Posts: 4,035
Won't happen. That's a huge liability on Aimia's books that aC isn't going to accept without payment. And without AC, Aimia's in a world of hurt and doesn't have spare cash for that.
May 11, 2017, 5:55 am
#17
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Mississauga Ontario
Posts: 4,105
May 11, 2017, 6:02 am
#18
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: YTZ
Programs: Hertz & Avis PC; National EE; SPG & Hilton Gold; AC 35K (yawn)
Posts: 5,921
Makes total sense to me. I look forward to the opportunities AC (and its banking partners) give me to sign up to their new program. As well as any Aimia gives me to stick around, I guess.
I am also glad I burn my points. Why hoard a currency that has tons of inflationary pressures at the best of times?
I am also glad I burn my points. Why hoard a currency that has tons of inflationary pressures at the best of times?
May 11, 2017, 6:08 am
#22
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: YYZ (YUL/LHR)
Programs: AC - E50, CX - G, Accor Plat, SPG Gold
Posts: 903
Some heads are going to be shaking and papers scrunched at TD HQ today. What goes around comes around.
I hope and expect that Amex will reach a deal with AC for the new programme to be a MR partner, although in the meantime the foundations are rocked since the only solid 1:1 transfer partner is BA with a very limited value proposition. SPG will be the go to card......while that lasts
I hope and expect that Amex will reach a deal with AC for the new programme to be a MR partner, although in the meantime the foundations are rocked since the only solid 1:1 transfer partner is BA with a very limited value proposition. SPG will be the go to card......while that lasts
May 11, 2017, 6:09 am
#23
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,309
I dont know why people are happy.
When has any of this ever worked in favour of the customer?
Chance for AC to completely revamp and "enhance"... and somehow thats going to be good for us?
Keep dreaming.
When has any of this ever worked in favour of the customer?
Chance for AC to completely revamp and "enhance"... and somehow thats going to be good for us?
Keep dreaming.
May 11, 2017, 6:09 am
#24
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
There's a quote there, somewhere, right?
Burn burn burn. You'd hope at least points earned in 2020 would be movable or convertable. I wonder how this will impact any EYW announcements, well this and the fact that most non-scam charge airlines are not bookable right now.
The optimistic part of me thinks this could be good. The realistic part wonders how AC IT are going to handle it.
Burn burn burn. You'd hope at least points earned in 2020 would be movable or convertable. I wonder how this will impact any EYW announcements, well this and the fact that most non-scam charge airlines are not bookable right now.
The optimistic part of me thinks this could be good. The realistic part wonders how AC IT are going to handle it.
May 11, 2017, 6:12 am
#25
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: YTZ
Programs: Hertz & Avis PC; National EE; SPG & Hilton Gold; AC 35K (yawn)
Posts: 5,921
It may be a benefit in the short term as AC tries to create buzz on the new program, but in the end all programs are going one way. I'll take any positive 'bumps' where I can get them.
May 11, 2017, 6:12 am
#26
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YYC
Posts: 4,035
Some heads are going to be shaking and papers scrunched at TD HQ today. What goes around comes around.
I hope and expect that Amex will reach a deal with AC for the new programme to be a MR partner, although in the meantime the foundations are rocked since the only solid 1:1 transfer partner is BA with a very limited value proposition. SPG will be the go to card......while that lasts
I hope and expect that Amex will reach a deal with AC for the new programme to be a MR partner, although in the meantime the foundations are rocked since the only solid 1:1 transfer partner is BA with a very limited value proposition. SPG will be the go to card......while that lasts
May 11, 2017, 6:13 am
#27
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Toronto
Programs: Aeroplan, Airmiles, RBC Rewards, British Airways Avios, American Airlines Aadvantage
Posts: 47
Any speculation if this will be better or worse for consumers. Some of the points needed for long haul flights especially business class requirements I find are quite good on Aeroplan.
May 11, 2017, 6:14 am
#28
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YOW
Programs: AC-SE100K, AC-3MM, Marriott- LT Titanium, SPG RIP
Posts: 2,959
Not surprising. Many here know that the contract is up in 2020, and we felt the launch of Altitude was the first step in bringing back the FF program into Air Canada's hands.
What were they thinking when they spun this off? Basically push your customers off to an organisation with a different agenda than your own. Of course it will end badly!!
The real issue for all of us if how will we be able to redeem these miles. I, like many others. have close to 1 Million AP miles. I believe that IKK for J seats will be more limited than before.
Ben and Calin talk about the change being customer centric (and financial of course - NPV of $2B). Ben- now is the time to adjust the J IKK availability so your customers can actually use some of the mile we have accumulated.
What were they thinking when they spun this off? Basically push your customers off to an organisation with a different agenda than your own. Of course it will end badly!!
The real issue for all of us if how will we be able to redeem these miles. I, like many others. have close to 1 Million AP miles. I believe that IKK for J seats will be more limited than before.
Ben and Calin talk about the change being customer centric (and financial of course - NPV of $2B). Ben- now is the time to adjust the J IKK availability so your customers can actually use some of the mile we have accumulated.
May 11, 2017, 6:17 am
#30
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: PEI, Canada (YYG)
Programs: AC E50K (MM), BA Gold, Marriott Platinum (Lifetime), National Exec
Posts: 277
What, no conspiracy theories????
I'm surprised that no one is postulating that this is a great opportunity for AC to blow up Altitude and greatly "enhance" it.
It'll also be interesting to see what Aeroplan evolves into - first off, the name will make no sense anymore since it will have nothing to do with flying. This move is going to generate tremendous confusion in the marketplace.
From a business point of view, I really can't see the small Canadian market needing another points program either.
Interesting times ahead.
It'll also be interesting to see what Aeroplan evolves into - first off, the name will make no sense anymore since it will have nothing to do with flying. This move is going to generate tremendous confusion in the marketplace.
From a business point of view, I really can't see the small Canadian market needing another points program either.
Interesting times ahead.