haolaowai_org

Because then fares would go up by $X, which means passengers will now to to another airline that has slimmer seats but prices lower by $X.

http://flightdiary.net/chineseman/2016

I fly EXCLUSIVELY cheapest Economy, no upgrades to seats. I get what I pay form and I know what I'm paying for

Did you know that with great shoes, you will reduce your chances of injury by X%? Why doesn't everyone buy the healthiest shoes for $2000/pair? Because some people trade that risk of injury (albeit small) for lower cost. The same applies to seating. If people VALUED not getting DVT above all else, they would either not fly or buy a private jet to fly (extreme example).
The fact that they fly, and fly economy, means that the risk of DVT from a small seat isn't worth that extra $ for more room.

cooleddie

You're 6'1... I'm 6'3. 2 inches make a huge difference. Also, people have different leg lengths.

I don't mind paying for preferred seats. But just make them available on all aircraft! Not just the A319/A320/A321s...

Jumper Jack

Well, that would defeat the purpose of PY in HD. The idea was to force enough people in Y to pay significantly more for PY. I had pointed out AA's model should have been followed if AC is not so greedy.
I would have paid Tango+26%... sure.. That is relatively reasonable and something non-E50+ members would like.

Oh wait,did I say its "relative reasonable" and "Non-E50K+ members would like"?
Cows will fly before AC does something good for its Y customers.

Dollars2Donuts

I get you, and my example really was directed at the guys that are smaller and still complaining. Again, sometimes it sucks for certain people, but if you NEED the room, pay for it or deal with it. Sorry.

And two inches doesn't make that big a difference.

At least that's what I have been telling my wife since we met.

D2D

yulred

Will it cost $X more? That's predicated on the assumption that people are paying more for preferred seats. The general consensus here is that people don't pay more for preferred seats.

Stands to reason then that a plane with 100 cramped and 20 preferred seats will generate the same revenue as a plane with 120 seats with identical legroom across the board.

As for health risks and shoe soles, there are a great many things that people were "willing" to live without till the government regulated them into place.

mapleg

I hope your prediction comes true.

Heck, even McDonalds's is trying to up their game from bottom of the pecking order.

Jumper Jack

Let's not compare Mc.D to AC. That would an insult to Mc.D. I actually like their breakfast wrap.

ffsim

We're not talking about "one bread fits all"... we're talking about the assumption that the bread you buy is not hazardous to your health and extrapolating that the airline seat you buy should likewise not be hazardous to your health.

It's indeed a great example, as others have pointed out.

djjaguar64

Must have been that horrible wrap they served him onboard. I don't blame him, I am 5'5" and I am not overweight or underweight, Im a light weight @ 155lbs. I was not comfortable in that seat from LHR to YYZ on that plane. It was just horrible discomfort.

payam81

I admit I didn't read the whole thread but this article is really one of the most stupid pieces I have read in some time. I especially find the part where the flier is presented as some sort of Captain America human specimen with "impeccable health" whose only health issue, ever, appears to have come from sitting in an AC plane for 10 hours... Yea I'm certain his age had nothing to do with it!

The writer for this story should seriously get a life along with this pax.

payam81

Here is the writer's email if you would like to share your opinion on her article:

[email protected]

ffsim

I'm pretty sure that's what the comments section is for... I don't think spamming her inbox is a particularly good idea.

CZAMFlyer

I'm not so sure the above assumption is valid. It's well known I abandoned Aeroplan status a couple years ago, yet still need to fly AC (or WS) to commute to work a couple times per month. I just checked into tomorrow's flight 234 a couple minutes ago - and with zero AC status, was offered one of sixteen available preferred seats at no charge. No extra revenue from this bum - and why would I pay extra for an 80-minute flight? So I agree, it does stand to reason your last sentence is often accurate.

Proudly Zone 5, and with my lunch money still in pocket.

canadiancow

Assuming the seat is hazardous at all (which, as far as I'm aware, has not been proven), it's only hazardous to people above a certain size.

I think a better analogy would be how can anyone sell non-gluten-free bread, since that is hazardous to the health of certain people.

jsfrSE

With the image of an Air Canada damaged aircraft, if not mistaken the Halifax incident....

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2016/0...illed-him.html

This is pretty disingenuous, but coming from Fox news, nothing surprises me anymore...