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Originally Posted by rankourabu
(Post 25494478)
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The question is - what hasnt been devalued - NOTHING. ............... Now ACr is another discussion :( |
Originally Posted by margarita girl
(Post 25494940)
Odd that CA would require different amount of miles from different FF programs too.
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Originally Posted by eigenvector
(Post 25494550)
You, sir, have not been to Scotland. :p
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Originally Posted by acysb87
(Post 25495093)
Flights in economy and business to Caribbean are held from Eastern Canada . Much of my point redemption is for family to visit us in winter.
Now ACr is another discussion :( How many AE 'adjustments' have there been? I can think of at least 4 major ones since 2011. And of course, the addition of YQ. But my point was, every program devalues, not just AE - and if you hold miles in only Aeroplan, you only have yourself to blame. |
Originally Posted by rankourabu
(Post 25495187)
But my point was, every program devalues, not just AE.
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Just got the snail mail letter.
My question is can we book NOW at the old rates for travel after Dec 15? If so for what period, up to one year in advance? Another downgrade in my opinion from AE and AC. |
Originally Posted by rankourabu
(Post 25495187)
It hasnt devalued over the last 3 years at all?
How many AE 'adjustments' have there been? I can think of at least 4 major ones since 2011. And of course, the addition of YQ. But my point was, every program devalues, not just AE - and if you hold miles in only Aeroplan, you only have yourself to blame. |
Originally Posted by 100,000miler
(Post 25495955)
Just got the snail mail letter.
My question is can we book NOW at the old rates for travel after Dec 15? If so for what period, up to one year in advance? Another downgrade in my opinion from AE and AC. AC is like 355 days out, so you should see Sept 2016 availability already Big questions is whether VOLUNTARY CHANGES after Dec 15 triggers the NEW rates or not |
Some of the redemptions are already insane - how sweet would it be, in the spirit of "keeping it competitive", if they raised some of the sweet spots but lowered some of the ones that are insane at the moment?
Take e.g. HKG-JNB: AA/AS: 30k OW Y Avios: 35k OW Y Aeroplan: 70k OW Y....... that's how much a FIRST CLASS flight is HKG-JNB on Cathay using AS miles... :( |
I just burned the last of my 30,000-ish miles on a Kaohsiung, Taiwan - Beijing r/t. EVA segments to and from China are in J with domestic connections on Air China in Y, but I'm okay with that.
Only $60 in fees! As discount airlines increase in popularity in northeast Asia, in the future I'll now consider paying for premium economy or seats with extra legroom. To be honest, I'm glad to be done with Aeroplan and enjoying the freedom of the choices now available to me. That said, having occasional "free" flights in business class was a good ride while it lasted! Hope others can book some good deals before December 15... |
Originally Posted by mkjr
(Post 25489769)
don't you just call up BAEC and book flights that JAL Transocean Operates? I was fairly sure that avios could be used on the three regional jal carriers.
Originally Posted by Guava
(Post 25491130)
Japan Transoceanic Air (NU) is a Oneworld affiliate member through JL's membership. It is listed here: https://www.oneworld.com/member-airl...n-airlines-jal
NU flights can be displayed on Oneworld schedule under its own code NU, which means you can book it with Avios, just like Dragonair is a OW affiliate of Cathay under its own code KA. Not all subsidiaries of OW carriers are affiliates of Oneworld. Vueling, a popular low cost carrier in Europe, which is owned by IB is a notable and often misunderstood exception for example. Many people took for granted that Vueling is a Oneworld affiliate when it is in fact not, even if you book it under IB code. And if you look under IB's profile, the only affiliates that are OW are Air Nostrum and Iberia Express. If you can't book it on BA.com, then you must call, in which case, BAEC agents would be happy to waive the phone booking fee for you, so no, you don't have to go to ANA to get to Ishigaki and yes, you can use Avios or any other OW miles without costing an arm or a leg. How to check availability, though? |
Originally Posted by Guava
(Post 25495890)
While it's hard to argue with your statement, I can't help but point out Japan Airlines' Mileage Bank's award between Japan and North America in all 3 classes have not devalued in the last 25 years. It has always been 110,000 miles to fly JL F to/from Japan and USA in 1990 and that is still true in 2015.
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Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
(Post 25495962)
Maybe airlines just think of it as inflation? Prices go up, so they think points can go up too.
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Originally Posted by Wpgjetse
(Post 25495962)
Maybe airlines just think of it as inflation? Prices go up, so they think points can go up too.
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Originally Posted by grandgourmand
(Post 25498513)
Award chart shows cost of 140k for this award starting Nov 1. Still better than Aeroplan though
You need to scroll a little further down: Limited Days of the Week = 110,000 for 4 days out of a week. The increase only affects the 3 other days of the week, supposedly busier time. As long as you are willing to travel Monday to Thursday for inbound flights to Japan or Tuesday to Friday for outbound flights from Japan, you can continue to redeem roundtrip F award at only 110,000 miles.
Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
Oh wow, I had no idea. Thanks for this. How to check availability, though? |
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