Air Canada Status Match - Success
#16
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There are much better/less controversial ways to attract and retain readers (since you claimed you didn't need the status and did it for kicks).
This type of journalism is why many don't trust FFer bloggers.
AC's community is much smaller, and easier for readers (and AC itself) to peruse these pages so you shouldn't be surprised by the negative reaction. The fact that you made modifications afterwards to your post(s) (and your blog) clearly show you are sensitive to any unintended consequences (which seem to have slipped your mind when you first wrote your piece.)
This type of journalism is why many don't trust FFer bloggers.
AC's community is much smaller, and easier for readers (and AC itself) to peruse these pages so you shouldn't be surprised by the negative reaction. The fact that you made modifications afterwards to your post(s) (and your blog) clearly show you are sensitive to any unintended consequences (which seem to have slipped your mind when you first wrote your piece.)
#17
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There are much better/less controversial ways to attract and retain readers (since you claimed you didn't need the status and did it for kicks).
This type of journalism is why many don't trust FFer bloggers.
AC's community is much smaller, and easier for readers (and AC itself) to peruse these pages so you shouldn't be surprised by the negative reaction. The fact that you made modifications afterwards to your post(s) (and your blog) clearly show you are sensitive to any unintended consequences (which seem to have slipped your mind when you first wrote your piece.)
This type of journalism is why many don't trust FFer bloggers.
AC's community is much smaller, and easier for readers (and AC itself) to peruse these pages so you shouldn't be surprised by the negative reaction. The fact that you made modifications afterwards to your post(s) (and your blog) clearly show you are sensitive to any unintended consequences (which seem to have slipped your mind when you first wrote your piece.)
As I said previously, I made the modifications as a result of being cornered.
#19
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I enjoy your blog and its original contents, keep up the good work, and maybe just don't over-post at FT
#20
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Good job and kudos OP!
Some of the people here are are AC fanbois, if AC tell them to jump they will say how high! Or even other FF program some are diehards lol.
Status Matching are becoming very common these days, a lot of companies would like to earn your business. Some Hotel chains are even doing it and its common knowledge.
Can you please PM me your blog?
Some of the people here are are AC fanbois, if AC tell them to jump they will say how high! Or even other FF program some are diehards lol.
Status Matching are becoming very common these days, a lot of companies would like to earn your business. Some Hotel chains are even doing it and its common knowledge.
Can you please PM me your blog?
#21
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Yet you posted it to your blog. If it wasn't such a big deal, and didn't have any strategic intentions, you would not have posted about it. The fact that you did, clearly showed your motivations for readership/publicity (among other reasons).
If you felt cornered so easily on such an (obviously) controversial topic, you will have a tough time being a lawyer.
Last edited by kwflyer; Aug 2, 2014 at 8:38 pm
#23
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OP never did tell us what he wrote to AC to make this request, just further confirmed his leveraging several undeserved status matches to scam his way to yet one more. Of course, in the end, he'll have to actually earn status since it now appears he's burned his bridges on several STAR airlines.
As for AC making SMs easier, as noted this has only been done when previously partner airlines have left the STAR alliance and AC would be an appropriate alternative if the elite wished to stay in the fold.
I suppose AC in this case was trying to appear to be more compassionate by granting an SM, but how automatic was it? As I note above, what tale of woe did the OP give AC? He only posted half the story even in the unedited initial post here and on his blog.
As for AC making SMs easier, as noted this has only been done when previously partner airlines have left the STAR alliance and AC would be an appropriate alternative if the elite wished to stay in the fold.
I suppose AC in this case was trying to appear to be more compassionate by granting an SM, but how automatic was it? As I note above, what tale of woe did the OP give AC? He only posted half the story even in the unedited initial post here and on his blog.
#24
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OP never did tell us what he wrote to AC to make this request, just further confirmed his leveraging several undeserved status matches to scam his way to yet one more. Of course, in the end, he'll have to actually earn status since it now appears he's burned his bridges on several STAR airlines.
As for AC making SMs easier, as noted this has only been done when previously partner airlines have left the STAR alliance and AC would be an appropriate alternative if the elite wished to stay in the fold.
I suppose AC in this case was trying to appear to be more compassionate by granting an SM, but how automatic was it? As I note above, what tale of woe did the OP give AC? He only posted half the story even in the unedited initial post here and on his blog.
As for AC making SMs easier, as noted this has only been done when previously partner airlines have left the STAR alliance and AC would be an appropriate alternative if the elite wished to stay in the fold.
I suppose AC in this case was trying to appear to be more compassionate by granting an SM, but how automatic was it? As I note above, what tale of woe did the OP give AC? He only posted half the story even in the unedited initial post here and on his blog.
Last edited by durberville; Aug 3, 2014 at 7:20 am
#26
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I don't see it a "scam" in anyway because AC legitimately gave OP the status.
Also, I believe OP did nothing unethical because his intention was to share this information so that people who flies Air Canada regularly can benefit long term.
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I can appreciate your sharing, it was mostly the amount of detail that made no sense to me, as it seems certain to bite you in the rear.
In terms of aggression, this community (AC forum), has watched as key benefits of the program like IKK and upgrade sharing get gutted due to abuse by a limited number of status holders. As a result, we're quite touchy to people who openly advocate abuse (understanding that ethical lines differ between people) as such behavior frequently has bad results for the entire community.
In terms of aggression, this community (AC forum), has watched as key benefits of the program like IKK and upgrade sharing get gutted due to abuse by a limited number of status holders. As a result, we're quite touchy to people who openly advocate abuse (understanding that ethical lines differ between people) as such behavior frequently has bad results for the entire community.
AC just cut its programs when it realized it could, AC flyers are not leaving to West Jet so AC can cut perks.
#29
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It was a status match from AB to AC, and apparently some FT member finds it "unethical" because they think it is a "scam".
I don't see it a "scam" in anyway because AC legitimately gave OP the status.
Also, I believe OP did nothing unethical because his intention was to share this information so that people who flies Air Canada regularly can benefit long term.
I don't see it a "scam" in anyway because AC legitimately gave OP the status.
Also, I believe OP did nothing unethical because his intention was to share this information so that people who flies Air Canada regularly can benefit long term.
I was under the impression that he faked some screenshots and just sent it to AC.
#30
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It was a status match from AB to AC, and apparently some FT member finds it "unethical" because they think it is a "scam".
I don't see it a "scam" in anyway because AC legitimately gave OP the status.
Also, I believe OP did nothing unethical because his intention was to share this information so that people who flies Air Canada regularly can benefit long term.
I don't see it a "scam" in anyway because AC legitimately gave OP the status.
Also, I believe OP did nothing unethical because his intention was to share this information so that people who flies Air Canada regularly can benefit long term.
If AC were to give him an accurate status match, it would be from 0 to 0.
People who fly Air Canada regularly have the opportunity to earn AC status legitimately on miles flown or segments. If one can't even make P25, they aren't what I'd call regular AC flyers.