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2016 777 Routes

*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.

Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.

Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future

77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto Vancouver Sydney: AC33/34

77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver Tokyo Narita: AC3/4

77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver London Heathrow: AC854/855

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 Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016)
 Plane       Status       Location Details
 
 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
 C-FIUA-701  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Apr 09/16  Out:May 09/16  (30 days)
 C-FIUF-702  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Nov 08/15  Out:Dec 27/15  (49 days)
 C-FIUJ-703  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Dec 27/15  Out:Feb 04/16  (39 days)
 C-FIVK-704  Done         Loc:HKG  In:May 09/16  Out:Jun 08/16  (30 days)
 C-FNND-705  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Mar 09/16  Out:Apr 09/16  (31 days)
 C-FNNH-706  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Feb 04/16  Out:Mar 09/16  (34 days)
 
 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
 C-FITL-731  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Sep 01/15  Out:Nov 20/15  (80 Days)
 C-FITU-732  Done         Loc:GSO  In:May 03/16  Out:Jun 05/16  (33 days)
 C-FITW-733  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Nov 23/15  Out:Jan 06/16  (45 days)
 C-FIUL-734  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Mar 16/16  Out:Apr 17/16  (32 days)  
 C-FIUR-735  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Dec 09/15  Out:Jan 18/16  (40 days)
 C-FIUV-736  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 26/16  Out:Apr 02/16  (36 days)
 C-FIUW-737  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 06/16  Out:Feb 12/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVM-738  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 13/16  Out:Mar 16/16  (32 days)
 C-FRAM-739  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 02/16  Out:May 02/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVQ-740  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 20/16  Out:Feb 26/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVR-741  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 17/16  Out:May 17/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVS-742  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Oct 23/15  Out:Dec 08/15  (46 days)
 
 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
 C-FIVW-743  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Mar 28/16  Out:Apr 23/16  (26 days)
 C-FIVX-744  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 21/16  Out:Jun 03/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNQ-745  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Jun 03/16  Out:Jun 16/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNU-746  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 06/16  Out:May 21/16  (15 days)
 C-FNNW-747  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Apr 23/16  Out:May 06/16  (13 days)
 C-FJZS-748  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:Mar 24/16  Del:Apr 26/16  EIS:May 18/16
 C-FKAU-749  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:May 01/16  Del:May 21/16  EIS:Jun 10/16


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Old Jan 12, 2016, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Mauricio23
So why isn't AC selling PY on 777 routes for the second half of the year yet?
They are.
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Old Jan 12, 2016, 12:39 pm
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Flying this to HKG and back from PEK with the wife in the spring. For anyone that has experienced it, how are the centre seats in Row 6? I'm concerned light and noise from the galley will be bothersome but like the privacy 6 affords.

Would centre 6 be ok or is there somewhere better?
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Old Jan 12, 2016, 3:00 pm
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Any way to figure out which of the 77W(40J) planes normally makes the toronto-london route? Or is that changing all the time.

I have a business flight on that route in late June. Should all be refurbed by then but would love to see confirmation before hand.

Thanks
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Old Jan 12, 2016, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by seegs
Flying this to HKG and back from PEK with the wife in the spring. For anyone that has experienced it, how are the centre seats in Row 6? I'm concerned light and noise from the galley will be bothersome but like the privacy 6 affords.

Would centre 6 be ok or is there somewhere better?

Assume you are asking about the 77L to HKG not the 789 from PVG?

I recently flew YYZ-HKG on the 77L in 6A. A couple I knew were in 6DG. They said they liked 6 for the same reason I did - the pods/seats feel recessed and the exterior wall adds a bit of privacy. I did not find the mid-galley noise to be bad other than the occasional crowds that seems to want the snack basket all at the same time.

The challenge seems to be crew and pax walking through and not closing the curtains. The velcro strip is not important enough to pay attention to and this was quite bothersome in 1A and 1K on the 788s to NRT.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 12:26 am
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735 is done and back in YYZ. Starts regular flights today. No aircraft has replaced it in GSO yet, but 740 looks like the only 773 without any flights scheduled for it. So, we'll see if it's next.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 12:59 am
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Originally Posted by YEGTigger
735 is done and back in YYZ. Starts regular flights today. No aircraft has replaced it in GSO yet, but 740 looks like the only 773 without any flights scheduled for it. So, we'll see if it's next.
Getting quicker and quicker! Anyone venture a guess for number of days for next one out??
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 11:45 am
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So, we know that the 777's that did not have a PE cabin got the 787 PE seats.

When the 777HD gets refurbed, will they just leave the PE seats like that? (Since it's already 10-abreast in the back and the PE cabin is already there, I guess they will just say wtv and not do it?)

I thought that, originally, the 777s were getting the ghetto seats.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by YEGTigger
735 is done and back in YYZ. Starts regular flights today. No aircraft has replaced it in GSO yet, but 740 looks like the only 773 without any flights scheduled for it. So, we'll see if it's next.
Good call, 740 arrived in GSO.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by winnipegrev
Good call, 740 arrived in GSO.
Wiki update?
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by SparseFlyer
So, we know that the 777's that did not have a PE cabin got the 787 PE seats.

When the 777HD gets refurbed, will they just leave the PE seats like that? (Since it's already 10-abreast in the back and the PE cabin is already there, I guess they will just say wtv and not do it?)

I thought that, originally, the 777s were getting the ghetto seats.
Back in the day, Ben Smith had said that the refurbs would get the 787 PY spec, and the HDs would not. The first part of that is happening. We'll see if the second part does as well once the HD's go in for their J updates.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Mauricio23
Back in the day, Ben Smith had said that the refurbs would get the 787 PY spec, and the HDs would not. The first part of that is happening. We'll see if the second part does as well once the HD's go in for their J updates.
Ben Lipsey, Upthread, May 15, 2014

Originally Posted by Ben Lipsey
As many of you have noted, in the analyst call this morning Calin announced that 18 of our 777s will be reconfigured starting next year to bring them in line with the 787 standards. Note that this means they will not mimic the 5 77Ps with 458 seats that we have operating YVRLHR, YVRHKG, YULCDG, YULLHR, which are unique aircraft suited to unique markets: different J seat, different PY seat, and different Y seat.

Unfortunately, and probably unsurprisingly, I can't give more information than that.

Originally Posted by Ben Lipsey
It was a : not a . In other words, the 77H has a different set of seats altogether, but as for the other reconfigured 777s I can't tell you right now what the final product will be.
Ben Smith, Upthread, May 19, 2014

Originally Posted by Ben Smith
Refurbished 77W/77Ls will have
Latest version of Panasonic IFE
New J seat introduced on the 787
New PY same as 787
Preferred Y seat options
New Y seat same as 787
New brand interior to match 787
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
Wiki update?
Updated.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Orcair
Updated.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
Ben Lipsey, Upthread, May 15, 2014
All that really said was that the other 777s would not be updated to the HD.

It makes no reference to the HD changing or not.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
All that really said was that the other 777s would not be updated to the HD.

It makes no reference to the HD changing or not.
I remember Ben Smith specifically saying the HD would not change. No time to go looking for it.
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