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Old Sep 19, 2017, 10:25 am
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Jan 18 2021 TC issues Airworthiness Directive for the 737 MAX
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html

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Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html

Cabin Layout

Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html







- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.

Routes

The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:

YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 3:19 pm
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I have an upcoming SFO-YUL flight on AC's 737 MAX in early April ... I'm a bit uneasy about flying on the plane at this point - do you think AC would allow me to change the flight to a new route and or date if I reach out to them?
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Originally Posted by kthpence
I have an upcoming SFO-YUL flight on AC's 737 MAX in early April ... I'm a bit uneasy about flying on the plane at this point - do you think AC would allow me to change the flight to a new route and or date if I reach out to them?
The same question was asked on another FT airline forum. The reply was along the lines of... I'm sure the airline would be happy to make the change for the change fee and fare difference if any. Or as some here would say, hope for a weather alert to allow you to change your flight.

Point being: Unless airlines ground these aircraft before knowing what the cause was, airlines won't have to move anyone. Also, there aren't a bunch of other aircraft lying around for them to move all of the pax to.
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 5:13 pm
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Originally Posted by skybluesea
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Never hurts to ask...
I have 2 737MAX flights with the family on Friday and Saturday and they are quite nervous, so I did call as well as tweet (DM). Both responses were negative to waiving the change fee or fare difference. Not surprised, but disappointed.

Can someone answer an SDC question? My flights are connecting, i.e. A-B-C, but A-B on Friday and B-C on Saturday. The phone agent said the SDC could only be done one flight at a time, i.e. I could NOT request A-C on Friday, or could not request A-Z-C on Friday. Is that true? Fare class is P, so the change should be free, but doesn't help as much in this case as B-C is only served by 737MAX. The actual routing is YVR-YYC-CUN.
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 5:33 pm
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This was on the UA forum. Bolding mine.

I've only seen one other post like this. And yes, it's only a data point of 1. But it doesn't take much to scare some people, even if the fear is deemed by others to be irrational.

As an aside, it's only a bit strange to "avoid" when you look at the long list of airlines who operate the 7M8 or any other 737.

Originally Posted by LASUA1K
I’m avoiding this aircraft! I already hate the 739’s, and avoid them when possible due to headaches after flying in them. It’s extremely hard to avoid, but I do my best. I flew FLL-IAH on a Max and it just felt different. Again, all my only reasons, but I’m avoiding the Max and just switched my Air Canada flight to avoid the Max.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30870012-post60.html


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Originally Posted by chavala
I have to say I’m very surprised how many FTers say they will avoid this equipment now. The general public, the clueless ones, the “kettles”, the Fox news watchers? ... yeah OK that I believe.
But you guys? The “experts” ?
Seriously???? How sad.
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 5:41 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
This was on the UA forum. Bolding mine.

I've only seen one other post like this. And yes, it's only a data point of 1. But it doesn't take much to scare some people, even if the fear is deemed by others to be irrational.

As an aside, it's only a bit strange to "avoid" when you look at the long list of airlines who operate the 7M8 or any other 737.



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In the topic about the ET302 crash on a different site some posters mentioned that they received memo's from their employers allowing them to exceed their spending limits in order avoid 7M8's if they don't feel comfortable flying them.
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by WildcatYXU
In the topic about the ET302 crash on a different site some posters mentioned that they received memo's from their employers allowing them to exceed their spending limits in order avoid 7M8's if they don't feel comfortable flying them.
You mean this thread in the Other Middle Eastern and African Airlines forum?
I've been following it as well.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/othe...way-kenya.html
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Per Bloomberg, China has grounded all of their MAXs.
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Per Bloomberg, China has grounded all of their MAXs.
Was just about to post too

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...x-caijing-says
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 6:02 pm
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There are 24 737 Max in AC’s fleet. I can’t even imagine how massive the reorganization of the schedule would be if those aircrafts were grounded.

It’s 13% (in number of aircraft) of the fleet which is much more than other airlines in North America...
AA 24 (2%)
UA 14 (2%)
SW 34 (5%)

Might be different if you count in number of seats but still...

I have a 737 Max coming up in a couple of week. I’m ready to wait to make changes, but Boeing and AC are better have a pretty good transparent response whatever the decision is...


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Old Mar 10, 2019, 6:19 pm
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I was skeptical of overreaction after the Lion Air crash, but 346 people dead on this air frame in 8 months places the onus on Boeing to prove these aircraft are safe. I think a temporary grounding until Boeing can answer the basic questions would be justified. If you want to consider it politically, imagine the reaction if god forbid there is a third accident in the meantime.
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Old Mar 10, 2019, 6:25 pm
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I say this with some touch of sarcasm...I’m far more afraid of the ridiculously tiny lavs in Y than I am about crashing in one of these birds.
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