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flyquiet Oct 1, 2013 8:31 am

Dorian's flight was on Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...98T0N920130930

hastuk Oct 1, 2013 10:15 am


Originally Posted by sp4294 (Post 21532469)
Anyone get the impression that AC was/is going to let these all quietly slide and hope that people don't pick up on the fact that they've been shafted? Am I the only one that thinks that having to make these phone calls is completely ridiculous and a real kick in the head?

Totally agree.

jarusoba Oct 1, 2013 10:21 am


Originally Posted by gtpdiddy (Post 21531013)
Finally got a nice agent who did it for me! I don't understand why it's so hard to do this by the other 4 agents. Now in Flex V class. Looks like service is variable even for an A75K member; wonder if it needs to take an SE status to get something like this done.

No. SE status wouldn't help either. I also had to put in 3 calls to have my tickets reissued.
:eek:

ramsfan Oct 1, 2013 11:22 am

I was told they are doing it automatically, it should be all done in the next few weeks and since I do not fly till March I will be fine to wait. I recall they did this last year too and it worked out.

Of course very disappointing we need V not S now, and the fare difference varies tremendously -- sometimes very little sometimes very high.

Another problem is the search function for fares does not have a class for lowest upgradable and the box to check for upgradable fares is not available when doing a multi-city search with a destination outside Canada or the U.S. So you have to call.

ramsfan Oct 1, 2013 1:55 pm

I was told they are doing it automatically, it should be all done in the next few weeks and since I do not fly till March I will be fine to wait. I recall they did this last year too and it worked out.

Of course very disappointing we need V not S now, and the fare difference varies tremendously -- sometimes very little sometimes very high.

Another problem is the search function for fares does not have a class for lowest upgradable and the box to check for upgradable fares is not available when doing a multi-city search with a destination outside Canada or the U.S. So you have to call in, which is more time consuming and you may or may not get a good agent.

rankourabu Oct 1, 2013 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by jarusoba (Post 21535331)
No. SE status wouldn't help either. I also had to put in 3 calls to have my tickets reissued.
:eek:

I thought as a member of a higher social class, your time was too valuable??? :p

Has anyone gotten non-AC issued tickets switched? Good luck!

jarusoba Oct 1, 2013 2:19 pm


Originally Posted by rankourabu (Post 21536658)
I thought as a member of a higher social class, your time was too valuable??? :p

If my time were THAT valuable, I wouldn't be going on FT.@:-)

Dorian Oct 1, 2013 7:23 pm


Originally Posted by flyquiet (Post 21534682)

I was watching the report on my flight on CNN at KEF....lol.

SYM Oct 1, 2013 7:25 pm

AC, please take my money!

I've been a loyal AC TPAC flyer for a decade or more. Several times a year I fly YXU-YYZ-Asian gateway-somewhere else in Asia.

AC is rarely the cheapest alternative, but I am willing to spend more to fly AC. I don't generally buy the cheapest available fare class; I am willing to spend more to save eup credits or even to book latitude to guarantee the upgrade.

But not any more. This is not another "I'm leaving AC" rant. I am still hoping to fly AC. I still want to spend more of my money on AC.

But it seems that the re-alignment of fare classes makes this impossible. I spent an hour on the phone with an agent trying to book YXU-XMN and TPE-YXU and she couldn't get either one to price in flex or even in latitude. She can get me there in tango or biz, just not in an upgradeable class. She has sent this on to ticketing, but both she and the person at ticketing seemed to think it was not doable, because "the fare classes no longer align"

There is an obvious workaround, which is to book YXU-Asian gateway on AC and then the next segment separately. But sometimes I need to be in my destination at a certain time, so a split ticket is not ideal. (And since they can't confirm till tomorrow, I will miss out on the 15% promo that ends tonight)

Hopefully this is a temporary problem, but its just one more way this change stinks.

jarusoba Oct 1, 2013 7:35 pm


Originally Posted by SYM (Post 21538216)
AC, please take my money!

I've been a loyal AC TPAC flyer for a decade or more. Several times a year I fly YXU-YYZ-Asian gateway-somewhere else in Asia.

AC is rarely the cheapest alternative, but I am willing to spend more to fly AC. I don't generally buy the cheapest available fare class; I am willing to spend more to save eup credits or even to book latitude to guarantee the upgrade.

But not any more. This is not another "I'm leaving AC" rant. I am still hoping to fly AC. I still want to spend more of my money on AC.

But it seems that the re-alignment of fare classes makes this impossible. I spent an hour on the phone with an agent trying to book YXU-XMN and TPE-YXU and she couldn't get either one to price in flex or even in latitude. She can get me there in tango or biz, just not in an upgradeable class. She has sent this on to ticketing, but both she and the person at ticketing seemed to think it was not doable, because "the fare classes no longer align"

There is an obvious workaround, which is to book YXU-Asian gateway on AC and then the next segment separately. But sometimes I need to be in my destination at a certain time, so a split ticket is not ideal. (And since they can't confirm till tomorrow, I will miss out on the 15% promo that ends tonight)

Hopefully this is a temporary problem, but its just one more way this change stinks.

I can see V fare on YXU-XMN and Q fare on YXU-TPE. These should be combinable and should work.
[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.4/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:

YXU  London City ON CA [CYXU]
XMN  Xiamen CN [ZSAM]
R/T  13 Feb 2014 | Economy-Low

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur  AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------

AC        YXU    XMN      1976  CAD        ***    5  180  VLXCN        30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2037  CAD        ***    5  180  VLWCN        30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2077  CAD        ***    5  180  QLXCN        30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2138  CAD        ***    5  180  QLWCN        30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2513  CAD    60 Days    5  90  H60LCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2573  CAD    30 Days    5  180  H30LCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2759  CAD    14 Days    5  90  H14LCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2909  CAD    60 Days    5  90  U60LXCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      3112  CAD    60 Days    5  90  U60LWCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      3259  CAD    30 Days    5  180  U30LXCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      3462  CAD    30 Days    5  180  U30LWCN      30 Dec-18 Apr

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.4/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]
[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.4/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:

YXU  London City ON CA [CYXU]
TPE  Taipei Metro / Taiwan Taoyuan Intl TW = TPE TSA [RCTP]
R/T  13 Feb 2014 | Economy-Low

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur  AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------

AC        YXU    TPE      1906  CAD        ***      360  Q0LXA        01 Jan-24 May
AC        YXU    TPE      2007  CAD        ***      360  Q0LWA        01 Jan-24 May
AC        YXU    TPE      2405  CAD        ***      360  H0LXA        01 Jan-24 May
AC        YXU    TPE      2506  CAD        ***      360  H0LWA        01 Jan-24 May
AC        YXU    TPE      2814  CAD        ***      360  U0LXA        01 Jan-24 May
AC        YXU    TPE      2877  CAD        ***      360  U0LWA        01 Jan-24 May


SYM Oct 1, 2013 8:21 pm


Originally Posted by jarusoba (Post 21538257)
I can see V fare on YXU-XMN and Q fare on YXU-TPE. These should be combinable and should work.
[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.4/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:

YXU  London City ON CA [CYXU]
XMN  Xiamen CN [ZSAM]
R/T  13 Feb 2014 | Economy-Low

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur  AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------

AC        YXU    XMN      1976  CAD        ***    5  180  VLXCN        30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2037  CAD        ***    5  180  VLWCN        30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2077  CAD        ***    5  180  QLXCN        30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2138  CAD        ***    5  180  QLWCN        30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2513  CAD    60 Days    5  90  H60LCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2573  CAD    30 Days    5  180  H30LCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2759  CAD    14 Days    5  90  H14LCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      2909  CAD    60 Days    5  90  U60LXCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      3112  CAD    60 Days    5  90  U60LWCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      3259  CAD    30 Days    5  180  U30LXCN      30 Dec-18 Apr
AC        YXU    XMN      3462  CAD    30 Days    5  180  U30LWCN      30 Dec-18 Apr

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.4/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]
[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.4/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]
Code:

YXU  London City ON CA [CYXU]
TPE  Taipei Metro / Taiwan Taoyuan Intl TW = TPE TSA [RCTP]
R/T  13 Feb 2014 | Economy-Low

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur  AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------

AC        YXU    TPE      1906  CAD        ***      360  Q0LXA        01 Jan-24 May
AC        YXU    TPE      2007  CAD        ***      360  Q0LWA        01 Jan-24 May
AC        YXU    TPE      2405  CAD        ***      360  H0LXA        01 Jan-24 May
AC        YXU    TPE      2506  CAD        ***      360  H0LWA        01 Jan-24 May
AC        YXU    TPE      2814  CAD        ***      360  U0LXA        01 Jan-24 May
AC        YXU    TPE      2877  CAD        ***      360  U0LWA        01 Jan-24 May


Many thanks. She was able to put together the itinerary but not get a price. Maybe ticketing will come back with a positive answer tomorrow. Given what you found, I should be able to route through PEK/PVG/NRT right? She thought I might have better luck through HKG but of course I am paying for the upgrade possibility so I did not want that option. Thanks again.
Oh, any suggestions on what I should spoon-feed the agent to make this work?

jarusoba Oct 1, 2013 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by SYM (Post 21538471)
Oh, any suggestions on what I should spoon-feed the agent to make this work?

Looking at the routing rules, just pick the ones that are the most convenient.

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.4 - Routing Rules: YXU-TPE/AC/Q0LXA/1906 CAD]
Code:

YXUTPE-AC 01OCT13      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0003 RULE CCSE
                         
  -FARE BASIS        CAD      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
Q0LXA          R  1885.00  1807.33              ADT  EX  PA
Q0LXACH        R  1413.75  1355.50              CNN  EX  PA
Q0LXAIN        R    188.50    180.73              INF  EX  PA
Q0LXACH        R  1413.75  1355.50              INS  EX  PA
Q0LXA          R  1885.00  1807.33              UNN  EX  PA

BOOKING CODES        Q                                         

INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XEX - REGULAR EXCURSION                   
MPM - PA  9116 VIA PACIFIC

---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  302 FROM-TO  YXU-YEA-YYC-YVR-BJS/SHA-BR/CA/CI-TPE*   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YEA-YYC-YVR-HKG-AC/TG/CX/BR/CI/     
                      KA-TPE*                                 
            FROM-TO  YXU-YEA-YYC-YVR-SEL-KE/CI/BR/OZ-TPE*     
            FROM-TO  YXU-YEA-YYC-YVR-TYO-AC/UA/BR/NH/CX/     
                      CI-TPE*                                 
            FROM-TO  YXU-YEA-YYC-YVR-TYO-JL/NH/CI-TPE*       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ-YTO-YWG-YVR-BJS/     
                      SHA-BR/CA/CI-TPE*                       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ-YTO-YWG-YVR-HKG     
                      -AC/TG/CX/BR/CI/KA-TPE*                 
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ-YTO-YWG-YVR-SEL     
                      -KE/CI/BR/OZ-TPE*                       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ-YTO-YWG-YVR-TYO     
                      -AC/UA/BR/NH/CX/CI-TPE*                 
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ-YTO-YWG-YVR-TYO     
                      -JL/NH/CI-TPE*                           
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/YQT/YHZ-YTO     
                      -YYC-YEA-YVR-BJS/SHA-BR/CA/CI-TPE*       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/YQT/YHZ-YTO     
                      -YYC-YEA-YVR-HKG-AC/TG/CX/BR/CI/KA       
                      -TPE*                                   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/YQT/YHZ-YTO     
                      -YYC-YEA-YVR-SEL-KE/CI/BR/OZ-TPE*       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/YQT/YHZ-YTO     
                      -YYC-YEA-YVR-TYO-AC/UA/BR/NH/CX/CI       
                      -TPE*                                   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/YQT/YHZ-YTO     
                      -YYC-YEA-YVR-TYO-JL/NH/CI-TPE*           
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/     
                      YQT/YHZ-YTO-YEA-YYC-YVR-BJS/SHA-BR/     
                      CA/CI-TPE*                               
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/     
                      YQT/YHZ-YTO-YEA-YYC-YVR-HKG-AC/TG/CX/   
                      BR/CI/KA-TPE*                           
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/     
                      YQT/YHZ-YTO-YEA-YYC-YVR-SEL-KE/CI/BR/   
                      OZ-TPE*                                 
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/     
                      YQT/YHZ-YTO-YEA-YYC-YVR-TYO-AC/UA/BR/   
                      NH/CX/CI-TPE*                           
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/YQT/YHZ/YOW/     
                      YQT/YHZ-YTO-YEA-YYC-YVR-TYO-JL/NH/CI     
                      -TPE*                                   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YWG-YVR-BJS/SHA-BR/CA/CI-TPE*       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YWG-YVR-HKG-AC/TG/CX/BR/CI/KA       
                      -TPE*                                   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YWG-YVR-SEL-KE/CI/BR/OZ-TPE*         
            FROM-TO  YXU-YWG-YVR-TYO-AC/UA/BR/NH/CX/CI       
                      -TPE*                                   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YWG-YVR-TYO-JL/NH/CI-TPE*           
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR-YWG-YVR-BJS/SHA-BR/     
                      CA/CI-TPE*                               
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR-YWG-YVR-HKG-AC/TG/CX/   
                      BR/CI/KA-TPE*                           
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR-YWG-YVR-SEL-KE/CI/BR/   
                      OZ-TPE*                                 
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR-YWG-YVR-TYO-AC/UA/BR/   
                      NH/CX/CI-TPE*                           
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR-YWG-YVR-TYO-JL/NH/CI     
                      -TPE*                                   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YYC-YEA-YVR     
                      -BJS/SHA-BR/CA/CI-TPE*                   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YYC-YEA-YVR     
                      -HKG-AC/TG/CX/BR/CI/KA-TPE*             
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YYC-YEA-YVR     
                      -SEL-KE/CI/BR/OZ-TPE*                   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YYC-YEA-YVR     
                      -TYO-AC/UA/BR/NH/CX/CI-TPE*             
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YYC-YEA-YVR     
                      -TYO-JL/NH/CI-TPE*                       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YEA     
                      -YYC-YVR-BJS/SHA-BR/CA/CI-TPE*           
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YEA     
                      -YYC-YVR-HKG-AC/TG/CX/BR/CI/KA-TPE*     
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YEA     
                      -YYC-YVR-SEL-KE/CI/BR/OZ-TPE*           
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YEA     
                      -YYC-YVR-TYO-AC/UA/BR/NH/CX/CI-TPE*     
            FROM-TO  YXU-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YEA     
                      -YYC-YVR-TYO-JL/NH/CI-TPE*               
            FROM-TO  YXU-YYC-YEA-YVR-BJS/SHA-BR/CA/CI-TPE*   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YYC-YEA-YVR-HKG-AC/TG/CX/BR/CI/     
                      KA-TPE*                                 
            FROM-TO  YXU-YYC-YEA-YVR-SEL-KE/CI/BR/OZ-TPE*     
            FROM-TO  YXU-YYC-YEA-YVR-TYO-AC/UA/BR/NH/CX/     
                      CI-TPE*                                 
            FROM-TO  YXU-YYC-YEA-YVR-TYO-JL/NH/CI-TPE*

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.4 - Routing Rules: YXU-XMN/AC/VLXCN/1970 CAD]
Code:

YXUXMN-AC 01OCT13      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0003 RULE CCCN
                         
  -FARE BASIS        CAD      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
VLXCN          R  1948.00  1867.74              ADT  EX  PA
VLXCNCH        R  1461.00  1400.80              CNN  EX  PA
VLXCNIN        R    194.80    186.77              INF  EX  PA
VLXCNCH        R  1461.00  1400.80              INS  EX  PA
VLXCN          R  1948.00  1867.74              UNN  EX  PA

BOOKING CODES        V                                         

INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XEX - REGULAR EXCURSION                   
MPM - PA  9237 VIA PACIFIC

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ROUTING  301 FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT-YTO-YWG-YYC/     
                      YEA/YYJ-YVR/YYC-BJS/SHA/HKG-CA/CZ/ZH     
                      -XMN*                                   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT-YTO-YWG-YYC/     
                      YEA/YYJ-YVR/YYC-HKG-KA/CZ/CX-XMN*       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT-YTO-YWG-YYC/     
                      YEA/YYJ-YVR/YYC-TYO-AC/JL/NH-XMN*       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT/YOW/YHZ/YQB/     
                      YQT-YTO-YWG-YYC-YEA-YYJ-YVR-BJS/SHA/     
                      HKG-CA/CZ/ZH-XMN*                       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT/YOW/YHZ/YQB/     
                      YQT-YTO-YWG-YYC-YEA-YYJ-YVR-HKG-KA/     
                      CZ/CX-XMN*                               
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT/YOW/YHZ/YQB/     
                      YQT-YTO-YWG-YYC-YEA-YYJ-YVR-TYO-AC/     
                      JL/NH-XMN*                               
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT/YOW/YHZ/YQB/     
                      YQT/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT-YTO-YWG-YEA-YYC     
                      -YYJ-YVR-BJS/SHA/HKG-CA/CZ/ZH-XMN*       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT/YOW/YHZ/YQB/     
                      YQT/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT-YTO-YWG-YEA-YYC     
                      -YYJ-YVR-HKG-KA/CZ/CX-XMN*               
            FROM-TO  YXU-YMQ/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT/YOW/YHZ/YQB/     
                      YQT/YOW/YHZ/YQB/YQT-YTO-YWG-YEA-YYC     
                      -YYJ-YVR-TYO-AC/JL/NH-XMN*               
            FROM-TO  YXU-YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR/     
                      YYC-BJS/SHA/HKG-CA/CZ/ZH-XMN*           
            FROM-TO  YXU-YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR/     
                      YYC-HKG-KA/CZ/CX-XMN*                   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR/     
                      YYC-TYO-AC/JL/NH-XMN*                   
            FROM-TO  YXU-YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YYC-YEA     
                      -YYJ-YVR-BJS/SHA/HKG-CA/CZ/ZH-XMN*       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YYC-YEA     
                      -YYJ-YVR-HKG-KA/CZ/CX-XMN*               
            FROM-TO  YXU-YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR-YYC-YEA     
                      -YYJ-YVR-TYO-AC/JL/NH-XMN*               
            FROM-TO  YXU-YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR     
                      -YEA-YYC-YYJ-YVR-BJS/SHA/HKG-CA/CZ/     
                      ZH-XMN*                                 
            FROM-TO  YXU-YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR     
                      -YEA-YYC-YYJ-YVR-HKG-KA/CZ/CX-XMN*       
            FROM-TO  YXU-YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR/YWG/YQR     
                      -YEA-YYC-YYJ-YVR-TYO-AC/JL/NH-XMN*


gtpdiddy Oct 2, 2013 2:37 am

eUp disaster with Flex->Tango fare class change
 
Tried to eUp within the designated window on a formerly flex fare now Tango that was manually converted back to Flex over the phone. Tried eUp online just now and failed. Spoke to agent at 4:30AM EST (10:30AM Frankfurt time) for FRA-YYZ segment and said I'd have to wait 'til 7AM EST to call back when YYZ desk opens to request upgrade. She said I'm automatically waitlisted anyway. 3 hour upgrade priority window lost. Previously I was able to get on the eUp screen on AC.com for this itinerary and now it gives me an error. Oddly another itinerary in December the eUp screen shows up. This is clearly an AC IT system glitch.

This is really frustrating since I'm currently overseas and it's a pain to have to call in to request an eUp; anyone has the same experience having to call manually for eUp even though already rebooked to a Flex fare and AC.com was previously able to show the eUp screen on the same itinerary but gave an error at the time of eUp window?!

Thanks,
GT

ACA321 Oct 2, 2013 4:37 am

I was in the same boat- having called to rebook the fare class- although I was able to upgrade online right at the 6-day window without a hitch. Obviously there are still lots of bugs with this switch and it's luck of the draw as to how it plays out. Good luck to you! Let us know what happens with your upgrade when you get a chance.

acysb87 Oct 2, 2013 5:12 am

IT Glitch,AC screw-up,likely. :(
Disaster? :eek:


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