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Old Jun 23, 2013, 10:09 pm
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Aeroplan fuel surcharges (YQ) collected on the following airlines:

Air Canada (AC)
Lufthansa (LH)
All Nippon Airways (NH)
Asiana (OZ)
Thai (TG)
Austrian Airlines (OS)
LOT Polish Airlines (LO)
TAP Portugal (TP)
Adria Airways (JP)

Aeroplan fuel surcharges (YQ) NOT charged on these airlines:

Aegean Airlines (A3)
Air China (CA)
Air India (AI)
Air New Zealand (NZ)
Avianca/TACA (AV)
Brussels (SN)
Copa (CM)
Croatia (OU)
EgyptAir (MS)
Ethiopian (ET)
Eva Air (BR)
SAS (SK)
Shenzhen (ZH)
Singapore (SQ)
South African Airways (SA)
Swiss (LX)
Turkish (TK)
United (UA)


*Keep in mind AC charges YQ for the entire trip sometimes, so if you do YYZ-PVG-MEL on AC/CA or YYZ-NRT-AKL on AC/NZ, even though the last two segments are not supposed to be charged YQ - AC will charge YQ based on distance of YYZ-MEL/AKL.

Aeroplan's last official statement on fuel surcharges including an important statement that all fuel surcharges are requested by AC, and not by AE or the operating carriers: All fuel surcharge amounts are applied by Aeroplan on behalf of the ticketing carrier and are passed through directly to the ticketing carrier.


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Old Sep 19, 2019, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
Aeroplan surcharges have very little to do with revenue surcharges.
Since its AC collecting them, and not the operating carrier requesting them, the collection can be random.
AC is collecting them.

However, the operating carrier is requesting them.

Those two statements are not contradictory. The same way that Expedia collects the entire fare when you book through them, because the operating (or ticketing) airline is requesting it.
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Old Sep 19, 2019, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
However, the operating carrier is requesting them..
Weird that they are only requesting them of AC not UA or AV. Avianca must be pretty special to get a discount
Or are you saying UA and AV foot the bill for all the award ticket YQ?
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Old Sep 19, 2019, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
Weird that they are only requesting them of AC not UA or AV. Avianca must be pretty special to get a discount
Or are you saying UA and AV foot the bill for all the award ticket YQ?
No, I'm saying it's a contract negotiated between AC and the operating airline.
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Old Sep 19, 2019, 4:12 pm
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No, I'm saying it's a contract negotiated between AC and the operating airline.
I take it back then, Avianca must have special negotiating powers!
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Old Sep 19, 2019, 9:04 pm
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btw, good article from Jayce (not my blog)

2019's MOST Comprehensive Guide to Fuel Surcharge (YQ) Using Aeroplan Miles - PointsNerd
https://www.pointsnerd.ca/2019s-most...eroplan-miles/
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Old Sep 20, 2019, 12:29 am
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Originally Posted by jerryhung
btw, good article from Jayce (not my blog)

2019's MOST Comprehensive Guide to Fuel Surcharge (YQ) Using Aeroplan Miles - PointsNerd
https://www.pointsnerd.ca/2019s-most...eroplan-miles/

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Thanks for posting this. Interesting column

Recently in another thread, someone asks the question about when AC fuel surcharge was renamed.

QUOTE from the article:

"Those taxes and fees don’t bother me and are just a fact of life. The one “tax” that’s on there that is purely a money grab is the “Carrier Surcharge”. This used to be called “Fuel Surcharge” until government regulations required that these “fuel surcharges” needed to be tied to the actual cost of fuel. This happened in and around 2012 and since that time, airlines tiptoed around that regulation and now call their cash grab “carrier surcharge”.

Otherwise, I liked a YQ example he posted - ET on the ADD-YYZ route on Aeroplan, which showed taxes charged for France and Germany, countries that the flight does not go to or through.
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Old Jan 23, 2020, 3:22 am
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looking at awards and it looks like South African Airways (SA) now has a carrier surcharge seems to be in the $2-300 range for long hauls

anyone know when this changed?
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Old Jan 29, 2020, 10:14 am
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looking at awards and it looks like South African Airways (SA) now has a carrier surcharge seems to be in the $2-300 range for long hauls

anyone know when this changed?
I am not sure, but when I booked my flight redemption in Aug 2019, with SA awards there was no YQ.
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