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Old Oct 12, 2021, 7:46 pm
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Originally Posted by The Lev
Now that one ticks all the boxes - SE, MM+, Credit Card and VIP. Kudos.
I don't think they're technically SE.
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Old Oct 12, 2021, 7:50 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I don't think they're technically SE.
Because they're omnipotent.
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Old Oct 12, 2021, 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I don't think they're technically SE.
If you are 3MM that automatically makes you SE.

Hopefully the eUpgrades given to VIP's are at least as good as SE
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Old Oct 12, 2021, 8:32 pm
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Originally Posted by The Lev
If you are 3MM that automatically makes you SE.

Hopefully the eUpgrades given to VIP's are at least as good as SE
Maybe I’m being silly, but I would venture to guess that a true VIP would have absolutely no use for eUps
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Old Oct 12, 2021, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by The Lev
If you are 3MM that automatically makes you SE.
If you're MM, that automatically makes you 50K. But if you qualify for SE, you're not simultaneously SE and 50K, you're only SE.

In the previous paragraph, replace "MM" with "3MM", "50K" with "SE", and "SE" with "VIP".

So, is the cow's friend SE?
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Old Aug 4, 2022, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Just to add on to that, my understanding is that there are low hundreds of AC VIPs.

Examples include William Shatner.

AC VIP is not like UA GS. The person in charge of travel at IBM Canada is AC VIP (maybe not, but that's the type of person who gets it). William Shatner is VIP (and other legit Canadian celebrities).

If you're thinking "I want VIP status", you're not going to get VIP status.

I had a negotiation with AC a few years ago, and they had no issue comping me SE (which I declined because I'm easily SE anyway), but VIP was a laughable request. If they value SE at $5k, they value VIP at $500k. Not that they'd sell it for $500k.
When you say "comping you SE" - do you mean you just asked for it? Like what was the leverage in your negotiation? Is it worth just asking for SE if you're close?
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Old Jan 12, 2023, 2:11 pm
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Interesting that Air Canada calls out that VIPs can access the AC Cafe in Toronto on the lounge finder page - I don't think I've seen any other specific reference to VIP anywhere else on AC's website.

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Old Jan 13, 2023, 7:10 am
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I sat beside a SE VIP - they were a 4MM but also the CEO of a prominent global professional services business, not sure which of the 2 gave the VIP status. They said that one year they flew the most miles with AC, as per AC, that number being around 5xx,xxx.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by caziz
I sat beside a SE VIP - they were a 4MM but also the CEO of a prominent global professional services business, not sure which of the 2 gave the VIP status. They said that one year they flew the most miles with AC, as per AC, that number being around 5xx,xxx.
My guess would be the latter. There are some 4MMs that are not VIP.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 12:18 pm
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The cost of the VIP service is pretty substantial. The last thing they'd want to do is grant it to people who have proven that they fly every day.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
The cost of the VIP service is pretty substantial. The last thing they'd want to do is grant it to people who have proven that they fly every day.
The person in question above, had a concierge waiting at the gate for them to walk them from gate to roadside at final destination, resource intensive considering not a connection
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by caziz
The person in question above, had a concierge waiting at the gate for them to walk them from gate to roadside at final destination, resource intensive considering not a connection
Yes, that's one of the guaranteed benefits. You're escorted your entire time in the airport.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 2:00 pm
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I'd rather be escorted by some of my FT friends, but so be it.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Yes, that's one of the guaranteed benefits. You're escorted your entire time in the airport.
I would consider that to be a downside not a benefit.
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Old Jan 13, 2023, 2:49 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Yes, that's one of the guaranteed benefits. You're escorted your entire time in the airport.
Originally Posted by The Lev
I would consider that to be a downside not a benefit.
I'll never come anywhere remotely close to holding this status myself, but I do occasionally travel with others who do. It's definitely a huge benefit, especially when travelling overseas or in airports you don't already know like the back of your hand.

Many of the people who qualify for this kind of service draw more attention than you or I do, and would benefit from the presence of a uniformed airline employee who knows the fastest route to an exit.

This is the same reason boarding last is a common VIP-tier benefit across many airlines, as it's in both the VIP's interest and the airline's to have as few other passengers as possible try to stop and interact with someone they recognize while boarding.
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