Mini RTW Questions
#6616
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I'm not sure about that.
On June 5 2019, I booked a ticket for travel from June 29 2019 through July 8 2019. I flew the outbound, and cancelled the return. The cancellation email says:
So it sounds like if you BEGIN flying within a year, you'll then have another year to rebook. But you have to take the first flight. But don't take my word for it.
On June 5 2019, I booked a ticket for travel from June 29 2019 through July 8 2019. I flew the outbound, and cancelled the return. The cancellation email says:
So it sounds like if you BEGIN flying within a year, you'll then have another year to rebook. But you have to take the first flight. But don't take my word for it.
Eg would any ticket booked on August 31st 2019 have to be completely flown by August 31 2020, or could you book for, say, April and then once October 2020 is available change it to that? I'm thinking not.
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I've been wondering this too - do you have one year from original ticket date to FLY or do you have one year from original ticket date to REBOOK.
Eg would any ticket booked on August 31st 2019 have to be completely flown by August 31 2020, or could you book for, say, April and then once October 2020 is available change it to that? I'm thinking not.
Eg would any ticket booked on August 31st 2019 have to be completely flown by August 31 2020, or could you book for, say, April and then once October 2020 is available change it to that? I'm thinking not.
You must commence travel within one year of original ticketing date, and you must finish travel within one year of initial travel date, from the way I read my email.
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Book August 31st 2019 for known "wrong" dates in, say, April 2020
Once availability opens up, schedule for
Departure late August 2020
Return October 2020
WOULD be allowed... Hope. Optimally we'd have left in September or October 2020 but MAYBE I can make late August work. I definitely won't be able to make leaving in July work for a return in August, which would be sad to lose a stopover...
#6619
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Hi
Long time since I've been here.
Wondering if this would work under the new rules
YWG-ORD-FRA (stop)-SIN (dest)-SFO/Something-ORD-YWG in J. 4 seats, travel April 2020. Cannot book for a few months. Can't do any more stopovers.
Would this be 155k per seat? Suggested airlines or routings that would be available? Haven't looked at routing through Europe to Asia before on Star Alliance.
Many thanks.
Long time since I've been here.
Wondering if this would work under the new rules
YWG-ORD-FRA (stop)-SIN (dest)-SFO/Something-ORD-YWG in J. 4 seats, travel April 2020. Cannot book for a few months. Can't do any more stopovers.
Would this be 155k per seat? Suggested airlines or routings that would be available? Haven't looked at routing through Europe to Asia before on Star Alliance.
Many thanks.
YWG-ORD UA
ORD-FRA UA
FRA-SIN appears to work on TK but connects - direct available?
SIN-SFO/SEA routes through Korea on Asiana - how is SQ J availability?
or should I go the other way first? IE SFO SIN?
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Do SEs get free changes? Or just free cancellations?
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#6622
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I read your e-mail and it does say "commence", so there's hope that e.g.
Book August 31st 2019 for known "wrong" dates in, say, April 2020
Once availability opens up, schedule for
Departure late August 2020
Return October 2020
WOULD be allowed... Hope. Optimally we'd have left in September or October 2020 but MAYBE I can make late August work. I definitely won't be able to make leaving in July work for a return in August, which would be sad to lose a stopover...
Book August 31st 2019 for known "wrong" dates in, say, April 2020
Once availability opens up, schedule for
Departure late August 2020
Return October 2020
WOULD be allowed... Hope. Optimally we'd have left in September or October 2020 but MAYBE I can make late August work. I definitely won't be able to make leaving in July work for a return in August, which would be sad to lose a stopover...
In my case, to minimize risk and maximize value, i'm going to book a round trip along a mini-RTW. I'll be flying to IST as my first stop in the mini-RTW in April 2020 and have dummy bookings for IST-SIN(stop)-MEL(dest) for May 2020. After I fly the IST leg, I'll call into aeroplan and push out my remaining flights to March 2021 and ensuring my travel ends before April 2021 (within 1 year of my first stop in IST). . I'll return back from IST to Canada on a separate ticket and link up with my remaining flights out of IST in March 2021 on a separate ticket as well. Keeping my final destination (MEL) unchanged, hopefully I wont be subject to any new reward fee structure that I am expecting.to come about.
Getting away from work long enough to enjoy europe, asia and australia in 10-14 days is difficult so I'll have a little european adventure next year and a long asia/australia trip in 2021.
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#6624
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Hi.
Working on mRTW routing, and I have a question re taxes, fees, etc.
If I book several consecutive flights with Air India in the middle of a longer itinerary, do I pay the fees on each flight, or only on one?
I am looking at flying into and out of India on Air India, (and perhaps taking another flight or two domestically, depending on the answer to my question as well) if that matters.
TIA for any help.
Working on mRTW routing, and I have a question re taxes, fees, etc.
If I book several consecutive flights with Air India in the middle of a longer itinerary, do I pay the fees on each flight, or only on one?
I am looking at flying into and out of India on Air India, (and perhaps taking another flight or two domestically, depending on the answer to my question as well) if that matters.
TIA for any help.
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OK, so i am researching a miniRTW for next spring. This is what I have so far:
YUL-SFO-LAX-SYD-AKL (or WLG) - stop
AKL-WLG-MEL-SIN-DPS - stop
From here I have 2 scenarios:
DPS-SIN (or BKK)-ADD - stop
ADD-FCO (or MXP)-ZRH-YUL
or
DPS-IST- stop
IST-(maybe VCE)-ZRH-YUL
Questions:
-Are either of these itineraries within MPM?
-If not, would starting in YQB help?
-Any way I can get JNB to work if I keep AKL? Or even just with DPS?
YUL-SFO-LAX-SYD-AKL (or WLG) - stop
AKL-WLG-MEL-SIN-DPS - stop
From here I have 2 scenarios:
DPS-SIN (or BKK)-ADD - stop
ADD-FCO (or MXP)-ZRH-YUL
or
DPS-IST- stop
IST-(maybe VCE)-ZRH-YUL
Questions:
-Are either of these itineraries within MPM?
-If not, would starting in YQB help?
-Any way I can get JNB to work if I keep AKL? Or even just with DPS?
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OK, so i am researching a miniRTW for next spring. This is what I have so far:
YUL-SFO-LAX-SYD-AKL (or WLG) - stop
AKL-WLG-MEL-SIN-DPS - stop
From here I have 2 scenarios:
DPS-SIN (or BKK)-ADD - stop
ADD-FCO (or MXP)-ZRH-YUL
or
DPS-IST- stop
IST-(maybe VCE)-ZRH-YUL
Questions:
-Are either of these itineraries within MPM?
-If not, would starting in YQB help?
-Any way I can get JNB to work if I keep AKL? Or even just with DPS?
YUL-SFO-LAX-SYD-AKL (or WLG) - stop
AKL-WLG-MEL-SIN-DPS - stop
From here I have 2 scenarios:
DPS-SIN (or BKK)-ADD - stop
ADD-FCO (or MXP)-ZRH-YUL
or
DPS-IST- stop
IST-(maybe VCE)-ZRH-YUL
Questions:
-Are either of these itineraries within MPM?
-If not, would starting in YQB help?
-Any way I can get JNB to work if I keep AKL? Or even just with DPS?
Using the technique outlined here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html
the MPM to AKL from YUL is 14324, and from YQB it's 14521.
Looking at the Great Circle Mapper, either of the return routes you outline is well over that.
BTW: the MPM for YQB to JNB is 12707, and that from YUL must be a similar number.
You might be able to do YUL-DPS-YUL via JNB if you can find a fairly direct route back from JNB.
Last edited by kalderlake; Aug 2, 2019 at 8:50 pm
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MEL is your furthest point, not AKL. If you make MEL your final destination, you will have more MPM, its around 16,000 from YQB.
I"m not an expert, but here's my take:
Using the technique outlined here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html
the MPM to AKL from YUL is 14324, and from YQB it's 14521.
Looking at the Great Circle Mapper, either of the return routes you outline is well over that.
BTW: the MPM for YQB to JNB is 12707, and that from YUL must be a similar number.
You might be able to do YUL-DPS-YUL via JNB if you can find a fairly direct route back from JNB.
Using the technique outlined here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html
the MPM to AKL from YUL is 14324, and from YQB it's 14521.
Looking at the Great Circle Mapper, either of the return routes you outline is well over that.
BTW: the MPM for YQB to JNB is 12707, and that from YUL must be a similar number.
You might be able to do YUL-DPS-YUL via JNB if you can find a fairly direct route back from JNB.
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I"m not an expert, but here's my take:
Using the technique outlined here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html
the MPM to AKL from YUL is 14324, and from YQB it's 14521.
Looking at the Great Circle Mapper, either of the return routes you outline is well over that.
BTW: the MPM for YQB to JNB is 12707, and that from YUL must be a similar number.
You might be able to do YUL-DPS-YUL via JNB if you can find a fairly direct route back from JNB.
Using the technique outlined here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28509402-post231.html
the MPM to AKL from YUL is 14324, and from YQB it's 14521.
Looking at the Great Circle Mapper, either of the return routes you outline is well over that.
BTW: the MPM for YQB to JNB is 12707, and that from YUL must be a similar number.
You might be able to do YUL-DPS-YUL via JNB if you can find a fairly direct route back from JNB.
All other routings (via ADD or PER) go over MPM