Mini RTW Questions
May 29, 2019, 6:02 pm
#6391
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 80
Silly question - but how long can a stopover be for in this type of itinerary?
Also, any luck finding being able to change ZRH-LHR-YVR to ZRH-YUL/ORD/BOS-YVR using LX as your TATL and AC or United to get to Vancouver but still in J class? Or will that exceed your MPM? That AC TATL flight is likely up to $500 in YQ, a very unnecessary YQ.
Also a tip, avoid LH and Austrian within Europe, they still scamcharge the YQ. Best airlines are Brussels Airlines, Aegean, SAS, and/or Swiss from what I was finding in my own little trip planning.
Also, any luck finding being able to change ZRH-LHR-YVR to ZRH-YUL/ORD/BOS-YVR using LX as your TATL and AC or United to get to Vancouver but still in J class? Or will that exceed your MPM? That AC TATL flight is likely up to $500 in YQ, a very unnecessary YQ.
Also a tip, avoid LH and Austrian within Europe, they still scamcharge the YQ. Best airlines are Brussels Airlines, Aegean, SAS, and/or Swiss from what I was finding in my own little trip planning.
ZRH-ORD not available
ZRH-BOS through LIS in J then to BOS in Y on TAP
May 29, 2019, 6:35 pm
#6392
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, FlyingBlue
Posts: 289
The LIS-BOS leg is almost definitely phantom.
Even IST-WAW-YYZ-YVR on Lot will be better than AC transatlantic.
If you wait until the 21st there is YVR-ICN-NRT all in business. You'll still pay for scamcharges on AC but at least you won't be miserable in Y.
May 29, 2019, 11:25 pm
#6393
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 80
ZRH-YUL will have availability if you can find the right date. Or ZRH-ORD. If you start the trip transatlantic, there is ORD-ZRH in Swiss J on the 20th at 7pm
The LIS-BOS leg is almost definitely phantom.
Even IST-WAW-YYZ-YVR on Lot will be better than AC transatlantic.
If you wait until the 21st there is YVR-ICN-NRT all in business. You'll still pay for scamcharges on AC but at least you won't be miserable in Y.
The LIS-BOS leg is almost definitely phantom.
Even IST-WAW-YYZ-YVR on Lot will be better than AC transatlantic.
If you wait until the 21st there is YVR-ICN-NRT all in business. You'll still pay for scamcharges on AC but at least you won't be miserable in Y.
For me I would rather have extra 2 days in a country and not get ideal flights or ideal YQ charges, I understand that because im booking so late that im going to have to bite the bullet and accept some of the ridiculous charges, im just hoping its not something like $3000 for the entire trip.
May 30, 2019, 9:47 pm
#6395
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 80
Just realized i still have a stop i can use, since im not doing Open-Jaw anymore, might go with this instead;
YVR-NRT - AC - Y - stop
NRT-CAN - NH - J
CAN-ADD - ET - J
ADD-SEZ - ET - Y - destination
SEZ-ADD - ET - J
ADD-NBO - ET - J
NBO-CAI - MS - J
CAI-IST - MS - J - stop (48 hours)
IST-ZRH - TK - J
ZRH-LHR - LX - J
LHR-YVR - AC - J
YVR-NRT - AC - Y - stop
NRT-CAN - NH - J
CAN-ADD - ET - J
ADD-SEZ - ET - Y - destination
SEZ-ADD - ET - J
ADD-NBO - ET - J
NBO-CAI - MS - J
CAI-IST - MS - J - stop (48 hours)
IST-ZRH - TK - J
ZRH-LHR - LX - J
LHR-YVR - AC - J
Last edited by aleks77; May 30, 2019 at 9:55 pm
May 30, 2019, 9:54 pm
#6396
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,399
If I were you I'd just book whatever is available now. Then if something better opens up later, pay the change fee and move to that. But you really don't want to risk flights that are available slipping away for the third time now.
May 30, 2019, 11:08 pm
#6397
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 80
YVR-LAX - UA - Y
LAX-NRT - UA - Y - stop
NRT-CAN - NH - J
CAN-ADD - ET - J
ADD-SEZ - ET - Y - destination
SEZ-ADD - ET - J
ADD-NBO - ET - J
NBO-CAI - MS - J
CAI-IST - MS - J
IST-PRG - TK - J
PRG-FRA - LH - J
FRA-LHR - LH - J
LHR-YVR - AC - J/Y (only 1 J seat ATM)
May 31, 2019, 8:46 am
#6398
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, FlyingBlue
Posts: 289
honestly if you can't find the Transpacific and Transatlantic legs in J, consider taking the trip in Y and saving points for a future trip...
May 31, 2019, 8:52 am
#6399
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,309
Be really careful with CAN transfers - its a PITA exception to connecting in China
Direct international air-to-air connections are permitted at CAN. Uncertainty remains around whether you are able to leave the airport during longer transits. Passengers with passports only eligible for 24-hour TWOV may be required to remain within the transit area regardless of how long they are in transit. Passenger who would otherwise also be eligible for 72-hour TWOV may be able to leave the airport if their transit exceeds 8 hours (but is less than 24 hours). Passengers with less than 8 hours needing to collect bags in CAN to transfer airlines may not be permitted to enter China for the purpose of collecting bags and re-checking. You may be required to contact the operating airline of your onward flight to collect your bags on your behalf and re-tag them to your final destination.
Direct international air-to-air connections are permitted at CAN. Uncertainty remains around whether you are able to leave the airport during longer transits. Passengers with passports only eligible for 24-hour TWOV may be required to remain within the transit area regardless of how long they are in transit. Passenger who would otherwise also be eligible for 72-hour TWOV may be able to leave the airport if their transit exceeds 8 hours (but is less than 24 hours). Passengers with less than 8 hours needing to collect bags in CAN to transfer airlines may not be permitted to enter China for the purpose of collecting bags and re-checking. You may be required to contact the operating airline of your onward flight to collect your bags on your behalf and re-tag them to your final destination.
May 31, 2019, 8:54 am
#6400
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 56
Would it possible to do a mini rtw from and to the Southern South America zone ? IE - Do I get 2 stops + a destination if I do a round trip within one zone?
May 31, 2019, 11:02 am
#6401
Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 99
Not sure if AP's "inter-continental" definition is expressly described somewhere but I don't believe it corresponds to the IATA zones.
Jun 1, 2019, 8:43 am
#6402
Join Date: May 2010
Location: YYC
Programs: Aeroplan, FPC Platinum, SPG/Marriott Gold, Radisson Gold Elite, BW Diamond Select
Posts: 293
Given the current political tension between Canada & China with the arrest of the Huawei executive in Vancouver late last year on behalf of the US, the specious detention and arrest of at least two Canadians in China, the banning of some Canadian food imports into China and the comments from the Chinese ambassador to Canada, does anybody have any hesitation in transiting through PEK or is any worry about this completely unwarranted? I'd appreciate any feedback in anticipation of booking a trip with a 6+ hour layover in PEK.
Jun 1, 2019, 10:03 am
#6403
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, FlyingBlue
Posts: 289
Given the current political tension between Canada & China with the arrest of the Huawei executive in Vancouver late last year on behalf of the US, the specious detention and arrest of at least two Canadians in China, the banning of some Canadian food imports into China and the comments from the Chinese ambassador to Canada, does anybody have any hesitation in transiting through PEK or is any worry about this completely unwarranted? I'd appreciate any feedback in anticipation of booking a trip with a 6+ hour layover in PEK.
Jun 1, 2019, 8:49 pm
#6404
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 6,924
Given the current political tension between Canada & China with the arrest of the Huawei executive in Vancouver late last year on behalf of the US, the specious detention and arrest of at least two Canadians in China, the banning of some Canadian food imports into China and the comments from the Chinese ambassador to Canada, does anybody have any hesitation in transiting through PEK or is any worry about this completely unwarranted? I'd appreciate any feedback in anticipation of booking a trip with a 6+ hour layover in PEK.
Jun 1, 2019, 9:08 pm
#6405
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YEG
Posts: 186
i’d avoid it but entirely NOT for the reasons you describe - PEK is a horrible airport with really long lines at security and immigration (and you must go through both even if you’re just transiting), and the lounges are crap - and accessible with Priority Pass (even for CA F lounge, which is no different from J). Food in the lounges is very meh too. So try to avoid PEK if you can.
I also just really don't want to get caught up in the politics between China/Canada.