Jasper2009

According to the ("new") rules introduced a few years ago, the change fee is indeed charged "per direction" - defined as outbound (origin - turnaround point / stopover furthest away) and inbound. Regardless of the number of changes you make to the itinerary, you'll never pay more than twice the "base amount" in change fees.

canadiancow

Has anyone actually been charged twice the base amount in a single phone call?

lemmeTAN

Long time lurker - decided to finally make an account as I try and book my first mRTW!

It's pretty basic without many day-trips, but due to time constraints (only about 3 weeks to do all of this!) I'm only planning one. I'm still very confused re: MPM and how to actually calculate what makes a valid trip, so I think this is what I'm mainly wondering about... Anyway, here it goes:

YYZ-YUL - AC Y (just a connection - I don't understand if these count as part of the MPM, so I'm listing just in case!)
YUL-ZRH - LX J (connection)
ZRH-IST - TK J - STOP
IST-HKG - TK J - Layover (19h30m)
HKG-SIN - SQ J - STOP
SIN-DPS - SQ J - DESTINATION

Option 1:
DPS-SIN - SQ J - (connection)
SIN-ZRH - LX J - (connection)
ZRH-YYZ - AC J

Option 2:
DPS-TPE - BR J - (connection)
TPE-CDG - BR J - (connection)
CDG-YYZ - AC J

Total surcharges (based off of Aeroplan/United engine searches) comes out to $446.76 for Option 1 or $287.86 for Option 2 and my understanding is that this would cost 155K AP. Any help or advice or corrections would be so greatly appreciated!

opentag

Your MPM for YYZ - DPS is 16293 and outbound is only 12744 and return Option 2 is 12877 (Option 1 is even shorter) so your distance is fine. 2 Stops and a destination is good. Looks valid to me! The AC legs will be increasing the YQ fees.
No idea when you're looking to go but if there's availability on BR J for TPE - YYZ I'd look at that for the end of Option 2. Home faster and even less fees.

MME2YYZ

ChrisA330

No. You'll be able to through check luggage if you have it, but you can't combine PNRs.

asovse1

Lol I did that to jack up my MPM by several thousand miles

​​Do you know if this is a case with only reward tickets? AFAIK, you get mixed results trying to combine AC PNRs when they're cash fares, so I was wondering if this was shut out for Aeroplan tickets specifically. Asking because I was interested in doing the same...though it's less important for me because I plan on taking the positioning flight a couple of days before my mRTW ticket begins

rankourabu

YQ for both options should be the same, It will be calculated based on YYZ-DPS AC YQ ($216). Taxes will be different between ZRH and CDG. But you never know, if they choose to calculate just ZRH-YYZ or CDG-YYZ, it will be calculated origin YYZ ($500+)

hangingaround

Hi all,

To calculate the taxes on a reward ticket, do I just add up all the individual segments found on aeroplan site?

Thanks

rankourabu

To calculate taxes, you can replicate the route on the ITA matrix.
YQ is different depending on origin-destination, and usually does not reflect the addition of individual segments

hangingaround

Thank you ranbourabu, I'll go try it out.

Another question, when I'm searching for a flight when the market fare mileage is less than the fixed mileage, can I book that flight as part of a larger itinerary? Or I can only book from flights available from the fixed mileage rewards. I'm looking at specifically LGA to YYZ. Fixed is 12,500 mileage, but they have market fare flights that only cost 7500 and 12,100. But none that are 12,500.

rankourabu

You cant combine market flights (which are tied to the actual cost of the ticket - that 7500 mile flight is probably $60 as a cash purchase) with other fixed (X/I) flights on AC or partners.

asovse1

If I was planning one of those crazy 16-segment mRTW itineraries, I can't put all 16 flights into ITA Matrix. Would I get the same YQ results if I just did quoted the YQ for Origin to Stop 1, Stop 1 to POT, POT to Stop 2, and Stop 2 to Origin?

Twickenham

The cost in points of an itinerary with AE is determined by origin-destination, not the price of any individual segments. Thus, if you're flying, for instance, LGA-YYZ-YVR, the price in points will be the price for LGA-YVR, regardless of what each segment costs individually.

canadiancow

That's true for Market Fare as well, since it's true for revenue fares.