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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160 taxes one way [of these YR=98] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) 580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - 49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - 25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) 231.74 + 20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92 (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54 online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30 online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197 online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - 43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67 online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - 12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60 online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60 online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00 (YQ) + 60.99 (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82 (YQ) + 15.97 (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23 online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Old May 27, 2015, 2:48 pm
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Just burnt 21000 miles and 39,5 euros (20+19,5) for a SQ HKG-SIN J award. Pretty stoked! This is going to be the first time in 2 years I'm stepping onboard a *A aircraft ever since i migrated to OW.
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Old Jun 1, 2015, 8:20 am
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Is it only with AC flights that we need to ask A3 agents to recalculate the taxes?
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Old Jun 1, 2015, 11:17 am
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US domesic flights could also get wrong taxes, depending how the Rep calculate the Taxes...

The US Transportation Tax (US) will be charged as 7,5% of the fare of the ticket.
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Old Jun 3, 2015, 4:25 pm
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Smile

Just called A3 and got this availability:
TPE-SIN-HKG one way with SQ in C, for 21000 miles + euro59.22 tax.
TPE-SIN SQ5805 is operated by EVA on B777-300ER
SIN-HKG SQ872 will be SQ flight on B777-200.
Whats your opinion of this combination? How is the SQ C class in B772?
How to know if A3 operator quota correctly the tax? Is there any online tool can help me with tax checking?
Thanks in advance!
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Old Jun 3, 2015, 10:29 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingJazzy
Just called A3 and got this availability:
TPE-SIN-HKG one way with SQ in C, for 21000 miles + euro59.22 tax.
TPE-SIN SQ5805 is operated by EVA on B777-300ER
SIN-HKG SQ872 will be SQ flight on B777-200.
Whats your opinion of this combination? How is the SQ C class in B772?
How to know if A3 operator quota correctly the tax? Is there any online tool can help me with tax checking?
Thanks in advance!
I would be amazed if you can actually book this. Surely you would far exceed the maximum number of miles taking such a long detour via Singapore?
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Old Jun 4, 2015, 8:11 am
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How to know if A3 operator quota correctly the tax? Is there any online tool can help me with tax checking?
The ANA online tool will quote taxes IN MANY CASES and I suppose these should be about the same amount as you're seeing. The problem with that tool is that it seems unable to give online availability for certain itineraries (certain airline combinations). You could give it a try. Do a search to find how it works. TBH 59 Euro tax sounds like a pretty good deal - ANY redemption in Europe would cost at least twice that much in taxes. Does the 59 Euro include Aegean's 20 Euro booking fee or is that extra?
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Old Jun 4, 2015, 8:27 am
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If one prices the exact same itinnerary in matrix and then just look at the fare break down, it is what
A random TPE-SIN-HKG o/w SQ gives me 79€ in taxes and charges
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Old Jun 4, 2015, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by Knobbgb
The ANA online tool will quote taxes IN MANY CASES and I suppose these should be about the same amount as you're seeing. The problem with that tool is that it seems unable to give online availability for certain itineraries (certain airline combinations). You could give it a try. Do a search to find how it works. TBH 59 Euro tax sounds like a pretty good deal - ANY redemption in Europe would cost at least twice that much in taxes. Does the 59 Euro include Aegean's 20 Euro booking fee or is that extra?
The operator didn't talk about the A3 booking fee at all.
I asked how much I need to pay for the flight combination required, the answer was 59.22 euro.
He probably didn't fully understand me.
the booking fee is a must expense, isn't it?
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Old Jun 4, 2015, 9:43 am
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Originally Posted by intuition
If one prices the exact same itinnerary in matrix and then just look at the fare break down, it is what
A random TPE-SIN-HKG o/w SQ gives me 79 in taxes and charges
Will try this online tool later.
Can u post the link plz? Thanks.
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Old Jun 4, 2015, 10:02 am
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http://matrix.itasoftware.com/
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Old Jun 4, 2015, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by FlyingJazzy
The operator didn't talk about the A3 booking fee at all.
I asked how much I need to pay for the flight combination required, the answer was 59.22 euro.
He probably didn't fully understand me.
the booking fee is a must expense, isn't it?
They always qoute all inclusive, ie taxes seems to be 39,22. Indeed a good price.
Perhaps did a mistake and qouted half of the taxes (79/2≈39) because you booked a one way.
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Old Jun 4, 2015, 10:26 am
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Does anyone know of a way to get round the 20 Euro A3 call centre fee when making an award redemption? If i request a certain award flight online, and then wait for them to call me and process it, will i have to pay the 20 Euro?
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Old Jun 4, 2015, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by benberg2013
Does anyone know of a way to get round the 20 Euro A3 call centre fee when making an award redemption? If i request a certain award flight online, and then wait for them to call me and process it, will i have to pay the 20 Euro?
I don't believe there is a way. However, look at it a different way - are you really going to chance losing a great redemption because someone else grabs it before you get that call back for the sake of €20?
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Old Jun 4, 2015, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by intuition
is it true this tool can't show the fare details using iPad?
in fact i succeed only with PC for searching.
yes, what you mentioned about was correct.
the taxes and surcharges are total 78.48Euro:
*****************************
Taipei (TPE) to Singapore (SIN)
Singapore Airlines 5805
Boeing 777
Business (Z)
OPERATED BY EVA AIR
*****************************
Singapore (SIN) to Hong Kong (HKG)
Singapore Airlines 872
Boeing 777
Business (C)
*****************************
SQ YQ surcharge (YQ)
55.46
SQ YQ surcharge (YQ)
4.48
Taiwan TW (TW)
14.54
Singapore SG (SG)
2.00
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge (OO)
2.00
*******************************
so i'd better make it clear with the operator before ticket issue.
thanks.^
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Old Jun 4, 2015, 1:13 pm
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"That tool" is the holy grail for many FT'ers...
It has been dormant a few years after google aquired the software and ceased all development. Now they do do some bug fixing, since (some parts of) it powers google flightsearch

Anyway, trying just now I could get fares displayed on an ipad, needed to click twice on the price, since first click only showed some kind of tooltip
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