tris06

Correct. I usually only stay up to 30nights a year in hotels,

barracuda93

Wonder why promo page has "Classic status" this time, though nothing is mentioned in T&C about any status restriction. I also got a personal e-mail about the offer (I'm Silver with them now).

SullyofDoha

tris06

Well I assume my yearly spending on hotels wont change so I should be able to keep platinum by earning status points until the end of 2019, then I will spend mostly with rewards points so likely I may not even reach the 30 nights or 7000 status points to be awarded gold, however Accor now drops members 1 elite level each year (plat- gold or gold - silver.. etc) if they cannot maintain their membership level.

jiunsoh

There is a trick to maintain your platinum even if your 2019 spending couldn't meet.

In asia pacific, there is a paid programme called "accorplus", where you can spent like 150 euro (based on rate offered in Malaysia) to sign up for 1 year membership, and once you are accorplus member the elite status assessment changed:





the trick is to sign up accorplus membership near year end, like november/december. then when you sing-up/renew your accorplus membership at the end of 2019, they will grant you platinum status to the time of renewal of year 2020.

tris06

Thanks but to be honest I didn't want to join Accor plus. Also there have been many past issues when Accor plus members wanted to join just the regular membership. Gold won't hurt that much.. I lose only 25 percent bonus points, lounge access unless paid, somtimes a slightly better welcome gift, free breakfast in Asia Pacific and not able to use early check In and late check out on the same booking/stay. If I was dropping from gold to silver Now that would be a bit more painful for me as silver really has few benefits apart from late check out and welcome drinks. My wife just said tonight the lounges are nice but not worth the extra money (I disagree but she would use it less than I would).

Anyway I think we should get back to the thread topic which is bonus points..

I am happy but I do prefer the X3 or X4 point promotions to be honest. The last time for Asia Pacific as a whole was around new year.

Dav77

gilbertaue

I'd say those days are gone. With the amount of points you can earn at Fairmont and Raffles properties, they'd have points flying out the window

coolhead

My gold accor status will expire end 2019. Does this mean that if I want to maintain the gold status after end 2019, I can subscribe to accorplus at end 2019?

tris06

I tend to disagree. Are you saying the profit margins are much thinner at luxury propeties compared to budget or mid range hotels?

Assuming (pull a random number out of the hat) Accor makes 10 percent on the average booking on Ibis bookings in say Singapore. Would they not make similar margins on the average bookings at the Raffles? The number of points is not the issue but the value of the stay. Why should an Ibis stay potentially as low as say 50 USD (thinking world wide) per night be rewarded always the same value as a stay at a hotel charging 1000USD per night?

I think it would be a massive mistake to limit promotion rewards for their biggest spenders to that of someone spending 10 to 20 times less money.

jiunsoh

yes, this is what appeared in the website, and i have 2 friends renewed last year getting their platinum status extension based on their year 2016 status qualification.

gilbertaue

I would say that AH would think twice about running "x3 / x4" promos in future, if they can entice the same guest with a "stay 3x for 6000 points" promo. (don't get me wrong, I like the x4 promos as well!
But if I was in their shoes, why pay 5000points x 4 after a fairmont stay, if the same guest only stays once. It would come off better for them to pull in the guest long-term rather than short term - without having to go overboard on the number of points they need to issue out.

CanadaDH

I would agree with you on the reduced need to offer such promotions, but for different reasons.

Firstly, I think it's a false assumption that a guest at a high-spend property is only a one-time guest. I personally pay $1,000+ per night at my favourite properties, and continue to stay at them year-after-year, and do so more than once per year. I have over 100 nights in suites at the Chateau Lake Louise, and am probably closing in on that number at the Banff Springs. Such landmark properties do attract a lot of regular guests. Sure, there are probably lots of bus tour guests who may never pass that way again, but just because it's an expensive place doesn't mean they're guests don't return.

However, I do agree that guests at such properties are less motivated by points, so they perhaps don't need to offer them (but since Accor chose the path of a one-size-fits-all program for all guests, even though the guests may be motivated differently, they probably shouldn't do anything different). Regular Fairmont and Raffles guests never collected points before, and still stayed there, so they're not necessarily going to be motivated by points now. I last stayed at the CLL because I like the place, not because I was given 14000 "status points" do so, or whatever number of "reward points" that converted into. I'll happily take the points and burn them on my next stay for a little discount, but it's not going to affect my decision on where to stay.

dimon84

Hello FTiers, quick question - may I book a hotel for two nights at the private sale rate to qualify for this 6000 promo? I can't see any T+C that would prohibit that (as some other chains do), but would want to be on the safe side

nrouxel

I have done this last year and got the points